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Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by brink on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @09:53AM (#33262155)
And who's going to decide what hate is - you? What if I think you're hateful?
Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by rootusrootus on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @10:24AM (#33262673)
We can start with plainspoken intolerance, because it is pretty easy to identify. Going beyond that would be difficult, perhaps too difficult, but I don't think we need to go that far.
Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by denton-scratch on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @10:32AM (#33262803)
But intolerance is the only reasonable response to some kinds of behaviour.
Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by rootusrootus on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @10:55AM (#33263140)
We may be talking about different things, then. Would you be willing to give an example of acceptable intolerance? FWIW, in my mind, when I say 'intolerance' I am specifically not including legitimate policy disagreements or opinions about behavior.
Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by denton-scratch on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @11:16AM (#33263463)
I am intolerant of rudeness, personal abuse, and bigotry. I think refusing to tolerate those behaviours is acceptable, even positively desireable.
Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by robin_reala on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @10:12AM (#33262483)
Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by brink on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @10:19AM (#33262583)
Then if you're in the US you shouldn't support de-platforming, because the government protects hate speech here.
Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by collegeburner on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @11:27AM (#33263614)
i think this is a culture mismatch between America and other places. we have no hate speech laws and have historically really disliked the idea of something like that in part because we trust our government a lot less than other countries. like, even liberals here will trust the government way less than right wingers in other countries. so we are pretty settled with our "clear and present danger" standard.

also wouldn't you acknowledge the government continues to regularly lie to the public? e.g. "masks don't work" at the beginning of coronavirus to keep people from buying them.

let me put this another way: it looks like you're in sweden where people trust the government a lot more. but would you be okay with joe biden or donald trump having significant control over "the truth"?

Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by robin_reala on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:32PM (#33266862)
Control of the truth happens regardless. A large part of the US population still believes that the last election was stolen based on Trump’s story.
Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by collegeburner on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @07:49PM (#33269242)
uhh does it though? your example directly disproves that because freedom to lie implies freedom to dissent and vice versa. the fact that people can go spread misinformation and that most sane people disagree, but others are still free to go talk about it proves that nobody has "control of the truth" and that's on balance a good thing.
Re:Brave browser now blocks cookie banners by ted_bunny on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @04:47PM (#33267733)
Have you seen how Texas is going after anyone who participates in a boycott of Israel? Even if the governments you trust have a good definition of hate speech, think about how your least favorite politician might define it when they get into office. It's just too broad and easy to abuse.