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Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by augustuspolius on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:19PM (#33256255)
I like the USB-C connector but wondering if there is a better way to handle the ever expanding number of different cable types that are used with this connector (SuperSpeed, Thunderbolt, etc).

Switching to USB-C reduced the number of different cables I have at home but almost equally increased the number of different types of USB-C I have. Some work with my monitor, some don’t, some charge, some don’t charge, it’s a mess.

Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by chrisseaton on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:24PM (#33256289)
If you want to, you can buy all 40 Gbps 240 W Thunderbolt 4 Pro USB-C cables for all use-cases, but they're literally like $100 a metre, so that'd be insane and why instead there's a variety of cheaper cables for different use-cases.
Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by wmf on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:36PM (#33256355)
A USB-C 3.0 100W cable is more like $20 and does everything other than Thunderbolt. The OP must have really bad luck.
Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by augustuspolius on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:46PM (#33257367)
Exactly - it's too expensive and at this point I am not sure how future proof this investment would be. Are we going to have a new USB-C cable in a year's time that my next monitor will require?..

Edit: different devices add even more to this confusion. My MacBook Pro M1 is refusing to work with a 4K USB-C monitor even when using a Thunderbolt 4 cable. LG is convinced that it should be working just fine.

Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by Dylan16807 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:31PM (#33256325)
Where the heck did you get a cable that can't charge? Unless you mean it can't go over 60 watts?
Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by seba_dos1 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:39PM (#33257315)
USB 2.0-only cables can't do PD negotiation, but they're USB 2.0-only anyway and cheap enough to just throw away if it's not what you want to have around (they're just regular old USB cables with different connectors soldered at their end).
Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by augustuspolius on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:41PM (#33257330)
Sorry, I meant data transfer+charging at the same time.
Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by seba_dos1 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:48PM (#33257384)
Every cable is suitable for at least USB 2.0 data transfer and 60W PD charging. Fully-featured cables get USB 3.0 data (at varying speed) and e-marked cables get >= 60W charging (100W or even higher with more recent PD revs). Thunderbolt (and USB4) has its own requirements.

If the above isn't true for your particular cable, it's either broken or what you're trying to do isn't specified by USB-C but rather some proprietary tech instead, in which case, blame your device vendor.

Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by augustuspolius on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:57PM (#33257449)
Interesting. I was testing this with a 4K USB-C monitor connected to MacBook Pro M1. Charging was not working due to "insufficient power".

I am trying to keep up with these spec details for a cable that is often marketed as just USB-C... it feels like an unnecessary cognitive load.

Re:USB4 Specification v2.0 by seba_dos1 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @12:03AM (#33257496)
Unless you need to go above 60W, a cable does not have any way to influence negotiated charging profile at all.