News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by jakelazaroff on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @01:43AM (#33243394)
This isn’t just about OSS. If I have a public repo on GitHub without a license, you can’t rewrite that code and put it in your project. I own the copyright. The issue is that Copilot will still launder it into your project for you.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by tommek4077 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:33AM (#33244133)
Oefrha just said that his, and probably yours, code is not worth that much if splitted into functions and commentary blocks. The value of software comes from its whole purpose, not your clever email-validation-regex you are so proud of.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by LtWorf on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @04:41AM (#33244565)
> not your clever email-validation-regex you are so proud of

Really? I challenge you to write a correct email validation regex.

Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by forgotpwd16 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @04:01AM (#33244325)
>code is not worth that much if splitted into functions

Some algorithms in scientific computing require lots of effort to implement as nice, reusable, performant function. Those functions often more important than whatever the whole is doing because it's what most other people will be interested in using.

Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by ranguna on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:48AM (#33244227)
Then why use OSS licenses in the first place?

Let's just copy each other's code without attribution.

Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by tommek4077 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @04:45AM (#33244593)
I am totally for this! Will bring eceryone forward in general without costing the society as much as this copyright bs.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by ranguna on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:41AM (#33258920)
Either that or people will stop posting their code publicly.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by pests on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:48AM (#33244230)
How many lines of code was the Oracle v Google case? 9?
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by oefrha on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @04:16AM (#33244417)
Just so happens I think the case is bullshit. You would have a point if I supported Oracle.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by pests on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:42PM (#33266996)
Your lack of support of them doesn't change the facts.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by batmanturkey on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @06:35AM (#33245299)
Says you.

If it’s all just disposable code, WHY ISNT MICROSOFT TRAINING COPILOT ON WINDOWS AND OFFICE CODE?

Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by notamy on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:18AM (#33246657)
Because that code isn't publicly available, just like every private repo on GitHub, and any other company's/person's proprietary/private code?
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by jakelazaroff on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:47AM (#33247054)
Again, if I put code in a public repo on GitHub and don’t include a license that allows it, you cannot copy that code. It doesn’t matter that you’re able to access it.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by frumper on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:55AM (#33249349)
Cannot is a strong term. Telling me there may be consequences would be more accurate.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by abigail95 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @01:17PM (#33250769)
I can claim fair use and short of an injunction there's nothing you can do to stop me.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by ranguna on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:43AM (#33258936)
Claiming fair use is not a fix all card you can play like that, there are a lot of nuences for that to hold on trial.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by kbelder on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @06:27PM (#33254916)
I'm allowed to read it and learn from it. To distill the core concepts and recreate it.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by ranguna on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:42AM (#33258929)
You as a human being, not you as a for profit company building a for profit product.
Re:GitHub Copi­lot inves­ti­ga­tion by jakelazaroff on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:49AM (#33247086)
Maybe I’m the worst programmer in the world. It doesn’t matter. My code is still my code, and if I don’t explicitly license it such that you can copy it, you’re not allowed to.