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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by warkdarrior on Monday October 17, 2022 @08:16PM (#33241383)
You can buy a pair of shoes and a smartphone for about the same amount of money (pick your number!) and they'll wear out in about the same amount of time.
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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by rendang on Monday October 17, 2022 @08:51PM (#33241658)
I usually buy $20-$50 shoes, not a lot of new smartphones in that price range
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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by bombcar on Monday October 17, 2022 @10:56PM (#33242447)
And if you’re poor you can find workable shoes at a thrift store for a few bucks. Finding a workable cellphone cheap is more difficult.
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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by ketralnis on Monday October 17, 2022 @11:40PM (#33242700)
that will be supported for security updates too
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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by scarface74 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @01:19AM (#33243242)
You can buy an unlocked Android phone for $50 unsubsidized.

There are plenty of places that offer cheap phones for the poor

https://www.reviews.org/mobile/how-to-get-free-government-ce...

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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by LtWorf on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @05:57AM (#33245009)
If it doesn't get security updates, you really can't do online paying/banking with it.
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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by scarface74 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:28AM (#33246783)
That’s mostly true for any Android phone after a year or two - or sometimes never.

All Android phones have shitty long term support - even the Pixels.

Of course iPhones are a different story with Apple releasing a security update for the 2013 iPhone 5s as recently as June of this year. But I’m not going to suggest an iPhone as an alternative.

On the other hand, developing countries manage with $30 unsubsidized phones and people use them for banking.

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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by iggldiggl on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:39PM (#33250163)
> If it doesn't get security updates, you really can't do online paying/banking with it.

Maybe you shouldn't, but in terms of pure ability you perfectly well can. (And somewhat ironically, if you take matters into your own hands and update the OS yourself, quite a few banking apps will then refuse to run for "security reasons", while at the same time they're absolutely happy to run on an outdated OS version.)

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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by scarface74 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @01:13AM (#33243213)
You definitely can.

https://a.co/d/imNpbBS

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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by john_the_writer on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @02:50AM (#33243844)
Where are you buying shoes that they cost over 500$.

I purchased a pair of docs for about 300$, 10 years ago. Still wear them as my day to day shoes/boots.

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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by mellavora on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @02:55AM (#33243875)
Yes, the shoe-phone!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_phone

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