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Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by KerrAvon on Saturday October 15, 2022 @11:14PM (#33220758)
Curiosity: do you find that you (at 30+ years) are so good at identification in the wild that you don’t find any “bad” specimens once you get them home, or do you still catch some outliers where you needed to look at them more closely? Or does the process involve taking them home for closer examination?
Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by dmitrybrant on Saturday October 15, 2022 @11:55PM (#33220912)
To be honest I don't recall the last time I've ever accidentally picked up a poisonous specimen along with the good ones I was intending to pick. At this point it's such second-nature that telling apart an edible vs. poisonous mushroom is like telling a bottle of milk from a bottle of Drano. And yet I still examine each one at home before putting it in the pot.

The other thing is that the truly deadly varieties, such as the subject of this article - Amanita phalloides, are really not that hard to avoid. When you're a novice forager, there are plenty of varieties that don't look remotely like Amanita, and are much easier to differentiate.

There are some hardcore foragers who even consume certain varieties of Amanita (some of which are edible!), but to me this would be too much of a hassle, since it would involve spore prints and maybe even microscopy of the spores to be absolutely sure.

Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by ncann on Sunday October 16, 2022 @12:17AM (#33220990)
I think I read somewhere before about how if a mushroom is white, then stay away from it. How true is this from your experience?
Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by dmitrybrant on Sunday October 16, 2022 @12:31AM (#33221040)
Using that rule of thumb, you would successfully avoid Amanita virosa (destroying angel), but you could still get poisoned by Amanita phalloides (death cap) which has a pale-green cap.

I don't endorse any rules-of-thumb for foraging, but a much better differentiator for beginners is whether the mushroom has pores vs. gills under the cap. There are virtually no deadly varieties that have pores.

Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by trhr on Sunday October 16, 2022 @05:49AM (#33222423)
> There are virtually no deadly varieties that have pores.

Never heard this one before. Adding it to my bug out notes. Thanks!

Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by Matticus_Rex on Sunday October 16, 2022 @06:34AM (#33222610)
Note that there's at least one, and that a number of them will still make you sick.

Put a few common pored edibles (Laetiporus sp., Cantharellus sp., Grifola frondosa, etc.) in your notes for sure though, with basic descriptions, as even their few remote lookalikes (at least pored ones -- some people think Omphalotus sp. look like Cantharellus for some reason) are just going to give you a moderate stomach upset at worst, and may be edible themselves.

Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by e12e on Sunday October 16, 2022 @07:06AM (#33222722)
> Put a few common pored edibles (... Cantharellus sp

Chantarelles don't have pores?

Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by Matticus_Rex on Monday October 17, 2022 @12:56PM (#33236358)
Derp; I meant non-gilled. Thanks for the correction. The false gills on chanterelles are a major part of why they're so accessible to new foragers.
Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by bergenty on Monday October 17, 2022 @12:20AM (#33229778)
They’re not deadly but there are quite a few ones with pores that will make you very sick.
Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by franze on Sunday October 16, 2022 @02:39AM (#33221561)
I avoid white and white-ish (i.e.: green-white). It significantly a but not totally- reduces the risk in my area.

Everything else a good book for identification. If its not 100% clear that it is editable, it gets thrown away.

Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by malermeister on Sunday October 16, 2022 @03:18AM (#33221768)
The parasol mushroom [1] is one of the most popular foraged mushrooms in my part of the world and is white-ish.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrolepiota_procera

Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by Matticus_Rex on Sunday October 16, 2022 @06:29AM (#33222596)
Amanita sec caesarae doesn't require spore prints or microscopy to be affirmatively ID'd as safe. You have to check for the presence of a few characteristics, but it's a fairly safe ID for experienced foragers. Blushers and grisettes, however... I've seen too many people in mushroom groups misidentify those to ever recommend them to others.
Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by cormullion on Sunday October 16, 2022 @07:02AM (#33222702)
Most Amanitas have a prominent base (volva) but I expect too many pickers just pull out by the stem so might not notice it.
Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by masswerk on Sunday October 16, 2022 @12:37AM (#33221061)
"Old school" foragers typically stick to a few mushrooms to be safe. Meaning, they have quite an expertise on 3 or 4 kinds of mushrooms and are staying away from anything else, especially, if there is a similar, poisonous mushroom. (At least, this is what all I happen to know are doing.) Also, if you aren't 100% confident, stay away from it. (And there is the real problem with apps, since lack of confidence is the entire raison d'être of these apps.)
Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by junglistguy on Sunday October 16, 2022 @02:47AM (#33221599)
rather 20-30 but I live in europe, in america you are different kind of human :D
Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by trhr on Sunday October 16, 2022 @06:00AM (#33222477)
America has thousands, if not millions, of invisible people living from the land and amongst the trees -- but you're right that our city dwellers don't know many wild plants.

The most obvious examples are our two major trails, the Pacific Coast and the Appalachian, which take a full year to hike and are done by tens of thousands annually.

Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by varajelle on Sunday October 16, 2022 @02:55AM (#33221651)
When I was younger I would go foraging and I would indeed stick to just the few species of very common mushroom that grew in the woods near me, that I could recognise for sure, with very distinct characteristics.

Then I moved to another city just a few hundreds of km away, and I couldn't collect many mushrooms anymore. The mushrooms variaties were quite different. The ones I could recognise were not so common anymore, and I didn't know the other ones. I stopped foraging now, because I don't have the urge to learn mushrooms again.

Re:Fungi Foragers Freaked by jeffrallen on Sunday October 16, 2022 @05:40AM (#33222391)
This is the way. Grandma teaches you her 3 or 4 favorites, you find them for her, and then she checks them herself. My wife is passing on this passion to our kids and my 4 year old already knows (1) which are good and (2) the only way to eat a wild mushroom is on the plate, after mommy checked and cooked it.