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Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by _trackno5 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:30AM (#33177509)
I have to disagree with you.

Coming from a country where media consumption used the be expensive, the reason people pirated entertainment was mainly due to cost. Not because it was inconvenient to see an ad.

Streaming will still be miles more convenient than piracy. All I have to do is turn on my apple tv, grab the remote and watch whatever I want, whenever I want. I don’t have to dig through some torrent sites, download it, then stream it to the tv.

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by airstrike on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:38AM (#33177655)
At this point, I actually pay for Netflix + Hulu(+ESPN+Disney) + Amazon Prime + I get HBO Max with my AT&T plan otherwise would also have to pay for that one. In the past I have also paid, for a limited amount of time, for Apple TV, Paramount+, Starz, Cinemax, The Criterion Channel, FuboTV, BritBox and Peacock. I'm probably forgetting a few.

I'm fairly certain Comcast's cable package they keep spamming me costs less than those combined

Media consumption is expensive again. All we've done is move from the cable bundle with terrible content to a different set of un-/re-bundled channels where the slightly better content lives.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/10/hbo-max-d...

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by lotsofpulp on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:50AM (#33177817)
Media consumption of everything all at once is expensive.

But it is on demand now, which is a great improvement.

And people can also pick and choose. I can buy individual episodes or seasons, or I can pay for one service per month and then cancel and pay for another next month. Or people can pay for everything all at once if they want. Or they can watch YouTube for free or pay to have fewer ad breaks.

I see lots of improvement compared to the previous situation.

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by jjulius on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:25AM (#33178371)
>I can buy individual episodes or seasons...

Can you, though? By this I mean, what does "buying" an episode/season look like? Have you simply paid for a license to watch the content via the provider you subscribe to as long as the provider continues to hold onto it's agreement with the rights holder that allows them to host the content, and you continue to pay said provider a monthly access fee? Or do you possess a physical copy, or a digital file, of the episode/season, un-DRM'd, on a device that you own?

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by lotsofpulp on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:29AM (#33178424)
That is true, I should rephrase to state I can rent for an unspecified amount of time. But I also do not care enough about media to care if it goes away. I just buy for the toddlers who like to watch things on repeat. For me, I just rent whenever I want to watch something,
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by sseagull on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:58AM (#33177923)
> I can pay for one service per month and then cancel and pay for another next month

I would not be surprised to see this go away. Some services have shows released regularly one episode at a time, which mimics broadcast TV (although that doesn't really bother me, and can be a good thing).

But I would be willing to bet that they begin restricting access to these shows based on subscription length or something (can only see a show with a 1 year subscription or something).

The goal is 100% to retake control from the consumer (well, it is to make money, but they will do that via controlling what a consumer can see).

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by lotsofpulp on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:33AM (#33178492)
That is fine with me, media is a completely nonessential part of life, and a seller can sell how they want and a buyer can choose to buy or not buy.

The great thing is the unnecessary middleman that used to restrict how sellers can sell is now out of the picture. Or in Comcast’s case, merged into one entity.

But that is a separate problem of government not designating fiber internet as a utility.

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by edgyquant on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @02:06PM (#33180693)
No the goal is to make money
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by Bayart on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:56AM (#33177890)
The Criterion Channel and MUBI are the only video streaming subscriptions I ever found real sustained value in.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by jjulius on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:33AM (#33177572)
>I don’t have to dig through some torrent sites, download it, then stream it to the tv.

You don't have to do that these days, either. There's software out there that will happily keep tabs on your favorite shows and films and download them as soon as they're available via torrent/newsgroup/etc., and then drop it directly into Plex, Kodi, or wherever, automagically.

Just like streaming, but without the cost.

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by synu on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:36AM (#33177614)
It will even download as you watch if you want to watch something without a delay.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by runjake on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:36AM (#33177609)
What might be some of the better software that does this?

So I can avoid them, of course.

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by jjulius on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:37AM (#33177635)
Radarr and Sonarr; stay away from them!
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by runjake on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:42AM (#33178647)
Thank you for responding, I definitely will.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by monetus on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:37AM (#33177639)
I have access to apple TV, the service, but it is easier for me to use Kodi on a raspberry pi to watch it. Make of that what you will. I know there needs to be a hub for all of the streaming services, and the options seem imperfect in one significant way or another.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by takoid on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:37AM (#33177640)
> I don’t have to dig through some torrent sites, download it, then stream it to the tv.

This is not the reality of piracy in 2022.

https://radarr.video/

https://sonarr.tv/

https://www.plex.tv/

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by vincnetas on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:01AM (#33177977)
Just google “popcorn time”. It’s a user friendly UI for torrent world. On the facade it looks like regular streaming service. In the back it downloads and shows torrents seamlesly. Depending on yor country, consider using VPN.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by spaniard89277 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:06PM (#33179895)
FAIK it's currently down.