It was submitted and flagkilled a few hours ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33167393

I wouldn't be surprised if The Algorithm punished this for being a duplicate.

  >the business of pronouns and stuff, and regardless of the merit of that sort of 
  >thing, it's not anywhere near the top of causes people expect their hospital 
  >donations to go to

Could you define what you mean by this?

To be fair, I was being glib there. This probably is the best attempt I've seen to define it - certainly better than when I usually ask the question that I did. In truth, though, I believe there is no 'woke' movement. I'm old enough to remember when people moaning about this stuff called it "political correctness gone mad" and, just like then, I have seen very little to convince me that 'wokism' and 'wokeness' are not just terms used by reactionaries who enter the 'free marketplace of ideas' and lose.

You're right, though, it's absolutely a rhetorical device. But I'll continue to use it because it's quite effective - I've yet to see a definition from someone complaining about 'wokeness' that doesn't devolve into "I just want to continue making things worse for marginialised people, and will complain when a large enough number of people tell me off for it".

I am absolutely open to you setting me straight on this, by the way, but I genuinely don't see much of a difference betweeen the reaction against what is currently called 'woke' and the complaints in the 1980/90s about the 'political correctness' of not being able to use racial slurs or sexist language on TV or in print any more. We know who was on the right side of history there, I'd like to think.

I took you to be writing against 'wokeism' until your second to last sentence, and then I was confused

For me, it means judging other people, for judging other people

Probably you define 'wokeism' as something else, and then I'd of understood you better

Edit: just to add, judging others is of-course sensible at many levels. The problem might be when I judge people more strongly than they are judging others. At that point I am part of the problem. I think we are very blind to our own faults, and this modern direction misses that

- Former employee of Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. Opinions and pronouns are my own.

You're kidding, right? You won't donate to a hospital because "pronouns and stuff" isn't part of "their mandates"? How about sexual harassment? Should they turn a blind eye to that in the workplace because it's not part of their mandates. Lunch breaks? Birthday parties? Seriously, if pronouns is the reason you stopped donating to an otherwise worthy cause, I don't see the hospital as the problem.