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Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by jimbob45 on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:17PM (#33166908)
The new leftist talking point is that there is no possible way to measure merit objectively so we shouldn't even attempt to do so. Therefore, they would counter your point by saying that you're incapable of hiring the best based on merit.

The irony being that color/gender is remarkably difficult to accurately track outside of self-reporting (see: Bosom Buddies, blackface, Elizabeth Warren's Native American background). Conversely, we've become quite capable at weeding out technical ability through technical interviews and whiteboarding tasks. It seems like leftists in this thread are attempting to project their own method's weaknesses onto merit-based approaches.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by mnd999 on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:28PM (#33167105)
> The new leftist talking point

Please stop with the tribal generalisations. There are more than two points of view in the world.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:27PM (#33167082)
> The new leftist talking point is that there is no possible way to measure merit objectively so we shouldn't even attempt to do so. Therefore, they would counter your point by saying that you're incapable of hiring the best based on merit.

Those who believe that there is no possibility of measuring merit are destined to be out-competed by those who can and do measure it at least somewhat accurately.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by lr4444lr on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @03:21PM (#33167966)
Unless they can successfully create laws to hamstring their betters.
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @06:53PM (#33170320)
That works within a country. It doesn't help against international competition, though. (And countries face international competition too...)
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by weakfish on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:56PM (#33167573)
Gross generalizations don’t really help prove a point
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by jimbob45 on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @03:06PM (#33167735)
Here are four examples from this very thread. Reddit is currently saying the same, though the identical verbiage is entirely coincidental.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33166633

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33166674

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33166773

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33167483