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Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by shadowgovt on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:24PM (#33127031)
Among the many, many mistakes Putin made was picking a fight with someone with a great deal of professional entertainment experience.

Modern wars are fought with blood, money, and message. Putin picked a fight with an opponent that is beating him on 1 and killing him on 3, and the international community is stepping up to provide 2 (partially because of how good Zelenskyy and his team have done on 3).

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by jdthedisciple on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:36PM (#33127158)
Putin - UNFORTUNATELY - already crushed all of EUs economies as his country thriving as never before. And that wasn't even his goal.

I'm not sure who are the not-so-smart ones in Europe atm. Consider Germany buying gas off India at 5x the usual price, which India got from Russia. Very smart. /s

Mass uprisings are probably near. It will become awfully clear which Kaisers are actually naked. Hint: It's not gonna be Putin.

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by alrlroipsp on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:45PM (#33127248)
Hilarious.
Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by jdthedisciple on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:47PM (#33127280)
Yea, I'm sure it's hilarious watching this insanity from outside the EU.
Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by hdjjhhvvhga on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:52PM (#33127325)
I have friends in Russia who actually believe this. They think Russia is winning and the West is in utter chaos, and will soon fall. I saw advertisements on Russian TV showing how Europe is freezing and so on. Meanwhile one fifth of Russian households doesn't even have a toilet. They have a completely different mindset.
Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by shadowgovt on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:00PM (#33127408)
As with any war, propaganda is strong. Situated in the United States where I am, I have no doubt Ukraine is doing a bit worse than I think they are, and Russia is doing a bit better.

But the thing that nobody can hide behind the propaganda is the fact that the war is still ongoing. Relative to projections before the invasion began, the fact that there is still war in progress is itself, alone, a glaring and unmaskable indicator that this did not go according to plan.

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by jdthedisciple on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:43PM (#33128354)
You don't even sound like you have any idea what's going on inside the EU atm.

Do you know that in Italy already a right-wing party just got elected into government?

Do you have any idea about rising sympathy for the right-wing AfD in Germany?

Do you have any idea about rising energy prices and how they are about to mass destroy businesses? How people are beginning to struggle paying for their energy bills?

This oblivious attitude to what's going on is exactly going to be the reason for the downfall of the EU.

Why do I never see these types of people address the facts and numbers? All I see is mockery and complete oblivion to reality.

Probably the same thing the US did in Afghanistan up until the moment they suddenly had to gtfo.

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by shadowgovt on Friday October 07, 2022 @10:20PM (#33129268)
Nah. People knew holding Afghanistan was a cluster from day 1. It's the "graveyard of empires."

Just took a long time to get a leader with the guts to do the needful and admit the country couldn't be remote-controlled.

National pride is a hell of a thing. Blinds people to reason.

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by hdjjhhvvhga on Saturday October 08, 2022 @07:09AM (#33131349)
I live in the very center of Europe and fortunately not much changed for me - yes, the prices are slightly higher, and electricity and gas quite a bit, but we knew about it from the moment Putin started the war and fortunately it's manageable. Yes, businesses depending on huge energy consumption will need to find a way to deal with it, and it's something that could be good for us in the long run. Just like COVID increased digital transformation, the war accelerated our plans to make us less dependent on fossil fuels.
Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by jdthedisciple on Saturday October 08, 2022 @08:06AM (#33131606)
> make us less dependent on fossil fuels

Sounds good on paper except that it's a complete and absolute pipe dream in reality. Even without the war that transition would've taken at least half a decade if not a decade. Believing that this can now somehow be magically achieved even faster than originally planned despite what's going on is basically the definition of wishful thinking.

Also, I have no idea how you live, but I wouldn't be surprised if you have but yourself to feed, live in a small apartment and happen to be among the few with a good income. That's unfortunately not very representative of your average family household.

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by hdjjhhvvhga on Saturday October 08, 2022 @09:05AM (#33131975)
I think you are being optimistic - I don't believe the transition can happen in a decade, even two seems wishful thinking. But it's about something else: about making sure everybody in our society understand the transition is necessary and they are willing to adapt. This wasn't obvious before the war, with many people or even whole societies preferring the old comfy status quo.

As for myself, I have a quite large family, and of course as all human beings we have worries about the future, but nothing really serious happened to us, and our lives are more or less as before. My electricity bill rose by 30% but it's still ridiculously small. I see no any signs of Europe falling despite of what Russian media are actively trying to tell their viewers. Maybe it's to stop emigration, but the ones likely to migrate (=young & talented) know better already. Many of them are staying only because they don't want to leave their older parents.

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by jdthedisciple on Saturday October 08, 2022 @11:14AM (#33132977)
Again, I can see you're one of the few who are well off and have a nice, comfy financial buffer to fall back to. Congratulations!

But I don't get how you can brush off fuel prices that have almost doubled since 2 years ago, almost double the butter and egg prices, rocketing energy prices, to just name a few examples as "ridiculously small" and "nothing really serious" when a good chunk of the populations live more or less hand-to-mouth and can barely afford such a drastic and sudden increase of living costs?

This to me is simply willful oblivion, and it's sad to see how people never learn from the past.

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by hdjjhhvvhga on Saturday October 08, 2022 @12:45PM (#33133820)
I don't know where you are taking your data from. In Berlin, you can but butter for €2.20-€2.50. Do you want to say that in 2020 I could buy butter for €1.10? Same with eggs - €2.70-€3.00 a dozen. I don't think you could buy them for €1.35 (that could be the price 10 years ago).

I don't think I'm particularly well off. I rent my apartment and I don't even have a car. I regularly meet with the members of my family living in different places and the amount of complaining hasn't increased considerably. There are more Ukrainians everywhere mostly women with kids, but they're nice people and many of them are working wherever they can, it's very good for our economy.

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by jdthedisciple on Saturday October 08, 2022 @01:03PM (#33133993)
I'm getting my data from my own observations, buying for my family. At my place, eggs used to be 1.69€, now 2.29€. Butter used to be well below 2€, now 2.29€. Petrol with around 1.20€-1.40€ per liter just 2 years ago, now getting up to 2.30€ and beyond. Meat, for example beef, used to pay 7€ for a kilo, now 10€.

Take electricity prices in Germany: Used to be around 20-30ct/kwH, now beyond 50ct/kwH.

I mean just look at inflation this year, a staggering 8% and beyond - a new high since many decades. https://www.laenderdaten.info/Europa/Deutschland/inflationsr...

And all of this is only just the beginning.

I'm seriously wondering which data you are looking at?

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by ShivShankaran on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:58PM (#33127386)
I don't think Putin wanted to crush EU. He is desperate to start the oil.

This whole warfare is for resources (oil and gas). Both the US and Russia have investments in the black sea but Burisma and co (With US investments) are strangling the Russian energy companies slowly.

NATO/NAZis/Democracy/Freedom/Freeing DPR etc are all excuses by Russia and West while the primary reason is gas and oil

US has been rabidly pushing EU to cut off all Russian energy for years and years.

Re:Ukraine officially recognized the Northern Territories as... by sidewndr46 on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:06PM (#33127452)
Yep, that's why the flights sold out from Russia. All those men were looking to go rub it in the faces of the other European countries that he crushed.