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Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by Yiin on Thursday October 06, 2022 @10:26PM (#33116745)
Where did you get the idea that vaccines are not tested on actual people before release to general public? I get the general lack of trust when people don't have clear information on how vaccines are developed, but when you call other people clowns while presenting comically wrong information it makes you look at best misled and at worst dangerously delusional.
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by someotherpersom on Thursday October 06, 2022 @10:49PM (#33116877)
I’m afraid you are comically wrong here and misleading the public (perhaps you’re delusional). Maybe next time you should try to find some clear information https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-authorize-new...
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by drewrv on Friday October 07, 2022 @01:02AM (#33117624)
If your claim is that "the vaccine" was only tested on mice and you don't clarify that you're only talking about the updated variant, not the original, then you're being purposefully misleading.
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by aliswe on Friday October 07, 2022 @01:29AM (#33117764)
Uh ... Im pro vax, and vaxxed, but this is pretty shocking. Take a look from the other side for a second.
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by dekhn on Friday October 07, 2022 @10:26AM (#33121795)
Sorry, no, it's completely accurate to say the new FDA boosters weren't tested on humans. Period. I'm not complaining that this happened (deliberate tradeoff) but it definitely did occur and people saying that are not necessarily being misleading.
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by drewrv on Friday October 07, 2022 @11:54AM (#33123016)
Yes I agree that it's accurate to say "the new FDA boosters weren't tested on humans"!

My point is that if you leave out "the new FDA boosters" then you're being misleading. It's important context.

Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by peteradio on Thursday October 06, 2022 @10:30PM (#33116770)
The latest bivalent booster was released without testing except on mice. I understand the apprehension to believe it.
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by slater on Thursday October 06, 2022 @11:30PM (#33117107)
I wonder if there was any reason it was released without testing except on mice?
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by naikrovek on Friday October 07, 2022 @12:00AM (#33117270)
of course there was a reason. probably multiple.

what antivax people don't understand is that vaccines are extremely well understood, especially boosters for vaccines which have already been through testing.

it's not like a vaccine for a new virus is 100% experiment, or even 1%. a vaccine is like a Rubik's cube; a known thing which you hope is in the right configuration to do its job. if it's in the wrong configuration then you're basically vaccinated against nothing or you are vaccinated against something you didn't need a vaccine for.

once you've built a few million Rubik's cubes you can stop doing human testing and quality control on every single one of them.

like Rubik's cubes, vaccines are made from known and understood ingredients, each with known and understood behaviors.

vaccines are inert to every part of a human body, except the immune system, by design.

vaccines are not an unknown thing, which could be made from any random junk on the shelf, and which may or may not kill you; vaccines are safe.

the amount of scare-tactic half-truth coming from antivaxxers is nuts because they are just repeating stuff they've heard that they don't understand but that sounds super bad on the surface, and then letting their fear override everything else then repeating the half-truth to the next person.

Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by ralph84 on Friday October 07, 2022 @01:32AM (#33117777)
If mRNA vaccines are so extremely well understood, why was so much misinformation spread by public health officials about them?

We were told:

- The mRNA and spike protein break down within a few days. Now studies are finding them still in the body months later and the CDC silently memory-holed the statement on their site about them being short-lived.

- The mRNA and spike protein remain localized to the injection site. Now studies are finding them all over the body.

- The spike protein is harmless. Now studies are finding it's toxic.

Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by throwaway5959 on Friday October 07, 2022 @01:48AM (#33117859)
Source on any of those claims?
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by Commodore63 on Friday October 07, 2022 @12:25AM (#33117428)
Yes? Because trials would make the formulation less timely, and therefore less efficacious.

They've done this on the flu shot for YEARS.

Or are you implying that a reason for fast tracking must necessarily be nefarious?

Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by tazedsoul on Friday October 07, 2022 @12:37AM (#33117502)
Something doesn’t have to be necessarily true for it to have a high probability of being true.
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by Commodore63 on Friday October 07, 2022 @01:03AM (#33117632)
A vast conspiracy theory involving tens of thousands of actors isn't possible.
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by peteradio on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:16AM (#33120199)
Tens of thousands of people show up to bag groceries each day, doesn't make it a vast conspiracy. Some peoples job is to do bad science and shill for big pharma, go figure.
Re:Twitter suspends account of Dr. Peter McCullough by drewrv on Friday October 07, 2022 @01:04AM (#33117639)
The big reason is to make it available before the fall, when people spend more time indoors and spread it more. Also you don't really need to test it, it's known to be safer than the disease.