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Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by slavoingilizov on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @09:58AM (#33080465)
Well... I agree with the spirit of the effort, but not the letter of it.

>>> From spring 2026, the obligation will extend to laptops

So this would force Apple to replace MagSafe with USB-C? How is that not killing innovation?

Standardisation should be a goal, but I just feel this particular effort is too specific and brings very little value to consumers. Why don't we standardise payment protocols instead? Or biometric identity verification? Or ID cards even (that the UK is allergic to)? I just feel the spirit of these efforts can be applied so much more successfully elsewhere.

Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by ben_w on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:12AM (#33080664)
> So this would force Apple to replace MagSafe with USB-C? How is that not killing innovation?

Depends how the law is written.

"Must have at least one USB C port for charging"? Then current laptops with magsafe are already compliant.

"Must only have …"? Then I would agree it goes too far.

Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by closewith on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:13AM (#33080679)
> Why don't we standardise payment protocols instead?

Like SEPA and PSD2?

> Or biometric identity verification?

Such as AFIS or maybe EU 2019/1157?

> Or ID cards even (that the UK is allergic to)?

EU 2019/1157 again?

It's not like EU standardisation of chargers is an outlier.

Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by yoz-y on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:01AM (#33080509)
How would it force apple to replace magsafe? All modern apple laptops can already charge from USB-C. Magsafe is just another option.
Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by yokoprime on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:29AM (#33080902)
My MacBook can charge with USB-C and MagSafe. If iphones had both a USB-C and a lightning connectors, this law would probably not have been pushed through.
Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by ldoughty on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:26AM (#33080843)
My MacBook currently has 4 USB-C ports that I can pick to charge from.

My last Macbook had 5? different ports on it, two of which were older USB standards.

Nothing stops apple from ALSO having a proprietary connector, as long as USB-C is still an option to charge.

> Why don't we standardise payment protocols instead? Or biometric identity verification? Or ID cards even (that the UK is allergic to)?

None of these result in hundreds of thousands of tons of plastic and copper or other metals being put in a landfill or dumped in the sea because they were only useful for 3-5 models of a single businesses devices.

Apple is still free to make this e-waste, but now their devices must support charging on USB-C, which they are free to NOT make their own chargers for, as long as it's standard-compliant and supported

Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by mtoner23 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:01AM (#33080525)
Macbooks support magsafe and USBc charging, i imagine thats sufficient to meet the requirement
Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by tjoff on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:02AM (#33080529)
Surely apple will still have usb-c on its laptop. And you would be able to charge through either magsafe or usb-c.

Just as you can with MS Surface.

Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by hackmiester on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @12:19PM (#33082615)
And just as you can with the current MacBook lineup.
Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by code_duck on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:01AM (#33080523)
Is Apple currently using MagSafe? Both of the recent MacBooks in my household, from 2020 and 2021, have standard USB-C connections.
Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by gorbypark on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:10AM (#33080629)
Yes, they brought it back. You can still charge via USB-C, though.
Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by iainmerrick on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:43AM (#33081100)
It’s also worth noting that the MagSafe cable has USB-C on the other end, so it fits fairly nicely into a world where all your adaptors are USB-C. The old MagSafe cables were permanently attached to the adaptor.
Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by orwin on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:43AM (#33081105)
All taht is already standardized btw. The countries do have some leeway in their implementation though, that's whay the EU driving license was quite quickly adopted in some countries, and very slowly in others (mine...).
Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by mateuszf on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:01AM (#33080522)
> How is that not killing innovation?

It's not such a great innovation if it makes users life harder.

Re:EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024 by lgrebe on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:01AM (#33080520)
Because law makers actively experience the pain of having different chargers in their day to day lives.