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Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by jenny91 on Sunday October 02, 2022 @07:02PM (#33061284)
It seems the K-pop industry has come up with a somewhat repeatable machine for churning out these bands: they manage everything from scouting young talent and training them, writing the songs, merch, events, etc?
Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by googlryas on Sunday October 02, 2022 @07:06PM (#33061306)
That's pretty much what every boy band creator does since nkotb in 1984.

The truth is 16 year old boys don't get together with 4 friends and make music like this. So you need someone in the industry to bring talent together, write their songs, etc. Compare that with rock, rap, punk, emo, etc which happens more organically usually.

Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by bee_rider on Sunday October 02, 2022 @07:50PM (#33061645)
I'm beginning to suspect The Monkees might not have been a completely spontaneous and organic situation, either.
Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by TEP_Kim_Il_Sung on Monday October 03, 2022 @05:59AM (#33065409)
The Monkees are just the predecessors of vocaloids.
Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by siva7 on Monday October 03, 2022 @02:01AM (#33063941)
That’s not true. Stop lying
Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by threeseed on Sunday October 02, 2022 @07:24PM (#33061457)
It's no different to what has been happening in the music industry for decades. Many of the most popular pop songs are written by third parties and the recording companies will often pair artists with experienced producers and tour managers.

The popularity of K-pop is more an artefact of the US mainstream favouring individual rap/hip-hop over dance-centric boy/girl bands and leaving a large opening in the market.

Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by astrange on Sunday October 02, 2022 @08:12PM (#33061828)
There’s plenty of rap in K-pop though. A great deal of Kpop is basically cultural appropriation from black people in America, whether it’s having a group rapper or having your video be “streetwear” themed.

Meanwhile Jpop actively resists being relevant, I suspect their music companies are being run for the purpose of letting the owners hang out with women even if it’s not profitable. (Or in the case of Johnnys, underage boys.)

Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by seanmcdirmid on Monday October 03, 2022 @01:18AM (#33063721)
Jpop has moved in more artistic directions, probably because of fan tastes. Like Attrashi Gakko, who are intentionally produced to look, dance, and sing unpolished and natural (the anti K-pop band)
Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by astrange on Monday October 03, 2022 @03:38AM (#33064553)
It's been like that for a while (like "anti-idols"). Japanese media is always unpolished and cheesy anyway, which is one reason anime is the only part anyone outside the country cares about, but the music industry does have a surprising amount of room for letting artists do whatever they want as long as it works.

When I heard about Atarashii Gakkou I thought it was some kind of American fan group because the name sounds like it was Google translated… guess it's just unpolished too.

Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by seanmcdirmid on Monday October 03, 2022 @01:24PM (#33070719)
I'm not sure if the unpolished aspect is intentionally produced or genuine. I would bet on the former, that...they intentionally take idol quality girls and go plain on the clothes and makeup for that "girl next door" look.
Re:Build your fanbase using the K-pop method by fomine3 on Sunday October 02, 2022 @09:02PM (#33062188)
it's just Japanese consumer don't prefer rap, and songs are generally made for domestic market (until now?)