Apple Has Reportedly Rejected TSMC's Chip Price Hike of 6%

Re:Apple Has Reportedly Rejected TSMC's Chip Price Hike of 6% by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @11:50AM (#33009379)

If anyone can do it, it's Apple.

Remember when there was no way that Apple would ever be able to move away from Moto?

Remember when there was no way that Apple would ever be able to move away from IBM/Power?

Remember when there was no way that Apple would ever be able to move away from Intel?

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Re:Apple Has Reportedly Rejected TSMC's Chip Price Hike of 6% by ChuckNorris89 on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @01:13PM (#33010453)

Building your own semiconductor fab with good yelds that are profitable is monumentally more complex than all of those things combined. Why do you think only Intel and Samsung are the ones left at the cutting edge anf even they are struggling to keep up with TSMC?

If you think Apple can just buy their way into fab success, you don't understand the complexities of semiconductor manufacturing.

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Re:Apple Has Reportedly Rejected TSMC's Chip Price Hike of 6% by nyokodo on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:39PM (#33012261)

> If you think Apple can just buy their way into fab success

No one is saying they can "just" buy their way into fab success. However, I think they do have the cash and clout to make it happen on a decade long timeline, possibly in league with Intel/Samsung or the US Government, or all three, etc. Obviously that would be enormously costly and risky, but any move to eventually do so is a threat to TSMC, so even if they don't do it they have a negotiating position with TSMC right now because the relationship is enormously valuable.

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Re:Apple Has Reportedly Rejected TSMC's Chip Price Hike of 6% by foobiekr on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @01:24PM (#33010595)

What apple really brings to the table isn’t really plain cash though capital investment helps it’s guaranteed capacity.

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Re:Apple Has Reportedly Rejected TSMC's Chip Price Hike of 6% by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:18PM (#33012024)

> you don't understand the complexities of semiconductor manufacturing.

Eh. Might know a thing or two, but I'm sure you know what you're talking about.

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Re:Apple Has Reportedly Rejected TSMC's Chip Price Hike of 6% by ChuckNorris89 on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @06:24PM (#33014019)

Please enlighten us.

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Re:Apple Has Reportedly Rejected TSMC's Chip Price Hike of 6% by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @09:09PM (#33015198)

Nah, that's OK.

Have a great day!

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Re:Apple Has Reportedly Rejected TSMC's Chip Price Hike of 6% by GeekyBear on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @12:30PM (#33009912)

Remember when there was no way Apple would shift their SOC production away from Samsung?

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