50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to Point Blame at Fat (2016)

Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by ThinkBeat on Sunday September 25, 2022 @11:58PM (#32979251)

It is and will always be wrong to focus upon a singel ingrediens in food and blame it for health problems.

Just eat a balanced diet based upon non processed food and do so in moderation. Then move around a bit

I had a teacher a long time ago who frequently told us to make sure we ate Apples or Bananas or whatever it was, now while it was still healthy / good for you.

She had observed a lot of twists and turns in what science decided was healthy or not over her lifetime.

All hype and fads that has laser focus on a single issue to avoid or pig out on are unhealthy.

I remember having co-workers who were dieting by eating big cubes of (Highly processed) cheese and packets of (highly processed) lunch meat.

Just 4 to 5 packages of plastic wrapped pseudo ham and whatever.

I dont care what it was called or who endorsed it but there is no way in hell that was a healthy idea.

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by mikewarot on Monday September 26, 2022 @12:20AM (#32979380)

>Just eat a balanced diet based upon non processed food and do so in moderation.

But our notion of a balanced diet is wrong, which is the whole point of this. Who knows what a balanced diet really is now?

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by stackbutterflow on Monday September 26, 2022 @01:08AM (#32979639)

Is it? Lots of fruits and vegetables every day. Some nuts a few days a week. Red meat once or twice a week, poultry meat and eggs for the rest of the week. Add in things like olive/avocado oil, spices, vinegar, yogurt. Drink water, tea/coffee, milk. Rarely rice, pasta, potatoes.

How could you go wrong with that ? That's basically my diet.

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by astrostl on Monday September 26, 2022 @04:09PM (#32987685)

"lots of fruits" after selectively breeding and engineering them into sugar bombs is one of the most unpersuading leads possible to me for a balanced diet.

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by sofixa on Monday September 26, 2022 @03:39AM (#32980475)

Disclaimer: not a nutritional scientist, just passing interest.

I don't see fish, which is, from what I've heard, important for nutritional diversity.

Also, fruit has lots of sugars so it might not be the best for "lots of".

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by hiq on Monday September 26, 2022 @03:46AM (#32980521)

> That's basically my diet.

How many people agree with you that it's a good diet? I'm especially surprised by "rarely rice", which is a staple in many Asian countries.

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by codeflow2202 on Monday September 26, 2022 @08:10AM (#32982126)

This is often false. Many people following this way of eating are still sick, weak, and often skinny fat. I was one of them. Of course this is going to be better than a McDonald diet, but it does a terrible job at fixing problems for people with any kind of metabolic problems.

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by worik on Monday September 26, 2022 @01:07AM (#32979637)

> Who knows what a balanced diet really is now?

Simple.

Food. Mostly plants. As close to raw as convenient.

The hippies were right

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by TEP_Kim_Il_Sung on Monday September 26, 2022 @03:58AM (#32980589)

Lots of tannins then? Not really healthy. A balanced diet, switching between periods of meat and vegetables, punctuated by vigorous exercise. That will serve you better.

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by conception on Monday September 26, 2022 @12:30AM (#32979439)

Really? My guess is the opposite. Everyone knows what they are supposed to eat but doesn’t. I don’t believe anyone on this site couldn’t recommend a healthy diet.

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by alvah on Monday September 26, 2022 @01:11AM (#32979669)

There is, at the very least, plenty of conjecture that the over-reliance on grains and grain-derived foods in the USDA food pyramid is better for the profits of agribusiness than the health of the nation.

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Re:50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists to P... by conception on Monday September 26, 2022 @10:42PM (#32991058)

I think Asia would disagree on keeping grains as a staple.

Processed grains perhaps but again I would be surprised if someone here was shocked that processed grains aren’t great for you.

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