News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by elric on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:49PM (#32973210)
So your freezer shuts down when your toaster is on? A hard cap that's low enough to make a difference seems like a bad idea, there are many devices which shouldn't be cut off suddenly. And that's ignoring things like medical devices.

Of course there's already a hard cap (usually ~9kW over here), but I suspect most people never reach it.

There are plans in Belgium to charged based on peak power (something silly like "max power used in any 15 minute period"), which would drive up the cost for the average consumer without reducing demand (as people tend not to have much choice in when they use their most power hungry appliances).

Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by rightbyte on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:08PM (#32974853)
> So your freezer shuts down when your toaster is on?

That is actually not a bad idea. Would only decrease power though, not energy consumption.

(Assuming the freezer is built to read the power meter and decide when to not run the compressor).

Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by bombcar on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:55PM (#32973277)
US houses can draw 166 KW (or half that if older 100amp service) but you’d probably be raided for running a grow op.
Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by elric on Sunday September 25, 2022 @01:03PM (#32973388)
I think you've got your units mixed up. 100A @ 120V = 12kW. Assuming the newer homes are 200A, that would be 24kW. 166kW seems ... unreasonable, especially over 120V, that's like 1400A. Toasty.
Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by ars on Sunday September 25, 2022 @01:14PM (#32973502)
US homes are measured at 240 volts. 100 amp would be on each of the 120v legs.

High power US home is 200 amp times 240 volts. More typical homes are 100 amp or 150 amp.

Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by kennend3 on Sunday September 25, 2022 @02:05PM (#32974101)
As the other person posted, you are mistaken.

Houses in north America are fed with two 120V "legs" and so the 100A is actually at 240V.

Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by bombcar on Sunday September 25, 2022 @01:06PM (#32973431)
Ah I found 200 amps at 220 threephase which is still a bit more than most houses.
Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by quickthrowman on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:41PM (#32975218)
Your math was still off, 200 amps at 220v three-phase is ~76.2 kW.

200*220*sqrt(3)=76210 watts