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Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by lawn on Sunday September 25, 2022 @09:51AM (#32971331)
The vast majority of the affected aren't the ones responsible for this mess, why is it hard to be sympathetic for those people?
Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by koheripbal on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:45PM (#32973148)
The wave of mass hysteria in Germany, after the Japan incident, to kill nuclear (which I personally suspect was driven by Russian influence operations) came with broad public support.

...so no, I continue to have little sympathy to any issues Germany will have this winter.

Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by hrpnk on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:59PM (#32973335)
Regarding influence - there is a fairly recent report (Sep, 20th) from German journalists on the Russian lobby: https://correctiv-org.translate.goog/aktuelles/russland-ukra...
Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by panick21_ on Sunday September 25, 2022 @02:04PM (#32974076)
Well German politicians had little other options. The country is so hilariously anti-nuclear and you clearly can't bank on renewables without storage, what other then gas should they have done?

Gas from the US or the middle east maybe?

Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by LargoLasskhyfv on Monday September 26, 2022 @02:08PM (#32986261)
Well, that may all be the case, but ignores the messing around of American lobbyism in Germany and the Ukraine regarding this, leading to the current situtation.
Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by lucumo on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:08PM (#32974857)
They are responsible. Democracy doesn't mean that the people get to pick their scapegoats. It means that the people have a choice in steering the country, and consequently a responsibility to steer it right.

Assigning someone with dumb ideas to run the country, not checking and correcting them, and then scapegoating them when it goes wrong... That's not democracy, that's laziness and cowardice.

Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by tgv on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:16PM (#32972841)
TBH, the majority is responsible for electing right-wing governments or coalitions that have put their head where their wallet is: pumping up profits of their friends and well-doers, lowering taxes, and privatizing and further ignoring infrastructure and governmental duties (and ignoring climate change, long-term changes in society, etc.). It hurts me to say that the many of the former social-democratic, and quite a few of the green, parties simply participated.

So the majority might be partially responsible. If you disagree hard, we'll be heading into "politeia" discussions, king-philosophers and what not.

Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by tmikaeld on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:43PM (#32973127)
> It hurts me to say that the many of the former social-democratic, and quite a few of the green, parties simply participated.

In Sweden, the green and socialists have been running the show for the past 8 years and during this period shut down 4 nuclear reactors that had at least 20+ years left of steam.

Re:Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages by ryan93 on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:56PM (#32973298)
Every left wing government was fine with cheap russian gas for decades.