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Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by pessimizer on Saturday September 24, 2022 @08:57AM (#32962137)
Tax meat, then, and get the prices into parity. I know it's literally violence to have to pay for your externalities, but that's a couple of the main things that governments are for: to do violence and tax externalities.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by Bakary on Saturday September 24, 2022 @09:31AM (#32962429)
You don't even need to tax meat in most situations. Just remove subsidies.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by VLM on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:38AM (#32963001)
meat producer subsidies already don't exist.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by DoctorOW on Saturday September 24, 2022 @09:03AM (#32962191)
I feel like you're making fun of me but I am genuinely okay with implementing a carbon tax.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by pessimizer on Saturday September 24, 2022 @09:28AM (#32962403)
I am not. I am agreeing with you enthusiastically.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by belorn on Sunday September 25, 2022 @07:15AM (#32970362)
That is great since a carbon tax is not a meat tax. Taxing the natural gas that goes into artificial fertilizers would increase the cost of a particular method of maximizing the growth speed and weight just before slaughter, but its not a method that farming must employ. They could just let the animals graze land that have vegetation naturally grow without artificial fertilizers, avoiding the tax and accepting a slower growth speed.

Any food that require artificial fertilizers would have to pay the carbon tax, making carbon-neutral food better in comparison.

Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by tptacek on Saturday September 24, 2022 @11:54AM (#32963861)
We're talking about the US market, right? You can't tax meat here. You might as well propose to a new tax on baseball or the national anthem.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by kennend3 on Saturday September 24, 2022 @01:26PM (#32964744)
Why do you think the tax system should be used for this?

The tax system should have a single purpose - Raise funds for government expenses.

This is why the tax system is the mess it currently is. Everyone thinks the solution to their personal "social change" is to "tax whatever they disagree with".

You dont like carbonated drinks, advocate for a "soft drink tax".

You dont like people eating meats, advocate for a "meat tax".

Should we increase the fuel taxes to account for all the diesel used to produce a vegan diet? Besides the farming, there is the water and transportation to account for. Some produce (nuts, avocados) are very damaging on the environment, should we tax them?

Or, is this a "bad tax" because it impacts you?

Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by starkd on Saturday September 24, 2022 @09:11AM (#32962260)
"a couple of the main things that goverments are for: to do violence and tax externalities"

huh? Maybe in authoritarian countries, but not in countries whose constitutions are geared for individual liberty. Your fascist tendencies are showing.

Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by Bakary on Saturday September 24, 2022 @09:32AM (#32962433)
A country with a constitution that is geared like this is still using violence or the implied threat of it to guarantee these rights or even private property in general.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by Dylan16807 on Saturday September 24, 2022 @09:24AM (#32962373)
What? It's the people that focus really hard on individual liberty that call government action violence, my dude.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by starkd on Saturday September 24, 2022 @09:31AM (#32962427)
Only when government action infringes on what they want to eat, dude.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz... by Dylan16807 on Saturday September 24, 2022 @09:43AM (#32962539)
That depends on whether you consider taxing externalities to be infringement.

I definitely don't. Taxing externalities is great and not fascist.