Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz...
by Lammy on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:53AM
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I don’t like the push to define humanity as a thing somehow separate from the Earth and all that entails. Cows wouldn’t exist at all if humanity didn’t depend on them. The most pro-cow stance is to raise them with love and respect and use all they offer us without wasting.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz...
by wpietri on Saturday September 24, 2022 @01:40PM
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Do you really believe that if everybody turns vegetarian tomorrow cows will just stop existing? If so, India would like a word.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz...
by Lammy on Saturday September 24, 2022 @02:29PM
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I’m talking about the past, not the future. Bos taurus/indicus wouldn’t exist without man: https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the-domestication-of-co...
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz...
by wpietri on Saturday September 24, 2022 @04:45PM
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Ok? I don't think that has anything to do with what I said, but you do you.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz...
by stickfigure on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:59AM
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I have grazed steers on my property and they didn't make such a positive impression on me. If they didn't produce beef I'd much rather not have them around.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz...
by robcohen on Saturday September 24, 2022 @11:17AM
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Not to go down this annoying rabbit hole, but if you and others didn’t eat it, wouldn’t it not exist in the first place due to lack of market demand? Is a short life with a quick end worse than no life at all. Would it be acceptable if they were sufficiently happy or cared for? Is this a form of slavery and therefore bad? Where do we draw the line? How much freedom and life is a worthy trade off vs no life at all?
It seems to me that this argument isn’t sufficiently strong. The global warming argument seems strong.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz...
by wpietri on Saturday September 24, 2022 @01:43PM
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Buddy, I'm not making an "argument". I'm explaining my thought process. If I can live my life in ways that are equivalent except one has less unnecessary killing, I'm going to pick that one. If that doesn't matter to you, that's fine by me.
Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz...
by Elinvynia on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:50AM
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Every vegetarian should look up "Dairy is scary" on YouTube.
Wouldn't be one for much longer.
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Re:‘I’d rather eat an actual burger’: plant-based meat’s siz...
by wpietri on Saturday September 24, 2022 @01:48PM
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Ah, reality. As defined by somebody so unable to function in it that he can't make it 24 hours here without getting 3 flagged/dead comments and a negative karma score.
But thank you for the comment. It's nice to know that the people opposed to crazy things like human rights are this dysfunctional. You give me hope for the future.
I'm in no way a vegetarian. And I'm too set in my childhood-established food biases to make huge changes. (I tried for a year or two. It didn't take.) But the Impossible and Beyond burgers are close enough for me. Could I tell them apart in a patty taste test? Probably. But once it's on a bun with cheese and barbecue sauce and whatnot, I don't notice a difference.
So at that point, I'm like, "Cows are nice animals." I have made the acquaintance of a few and I like them. For an equivalent experience, I can either kill the cow or not. So we've been gradually shifting toward the high-grade fake meats. I look forward to further improvements on this front.