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Re:Mozilla claims Apple, Google and Microsoft force users to... by yjftsjthsd-h on Friday September 23, 2022 @05:27PM (#32957319)
I guess if you define "forced" as "completely 100% impossible to avoid or prevent" then yes. But I think it's reasonable to say that "forced" is acceptable shorthand for "coerced by dark patterns in such a way that 99% of actual users will end up doing what the vendor wants whether they want to or not".
Re:Mozilla claims Apple, Google and Microsoft force users to... by encryptluks2 on Friday September 23, 2022 @07:50PM (#32958431)
You get prompted once on Windows unless you use Edge again. I don't think that would be considered force either. Force would be like a prompt on every reboot or whenever you opened Firefox.
Re:Mozilla claims Apple, Google and Microsoft force users to... by ht85 on Friday September 23, 2022 @08:14PM (#32958593)
That's not true. Major patches all have some dialog full of dark pattern suggesting you browse with the most secure, bestest browser. Within the last year I've had multiple family / friends ask me how to get back to their normal browser, not knowing why Edge was now launching by default whenever they clicked a link.

Edge even has special behavior to show you the same bullshit when you try to download another browser [1] [2]. But no worries, they might get a slap on the wrist for it.

[1] https://www.xda-developers.com/microsoft-edge-chrome-2008/

[2] https://www.debugpoint.com/edge-messages-controversy/

Re:Mozilla claims Apple, Google and Microsoft force users to... by dmitriid on Saturday September 24, 2022 @03:59AM (#32960592)
On windows searching from windows search box opens edge, not the default browser. Edge is advertised in the start menu. Etc.