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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by mBVth4DiupvBPY4 on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @09:23PM (#32933775)
It's actually not free as part of all Office 365 plans, sadly. We discovered recently that we'd either have to downgrade(!!!) to the version with only web apps, or upgrade to the version with Exchange, to get teams. (Or, better yet, pay for a Teams-specific license since it's $0.25 cheaper than getting Exchange...)

Of course, the whole reason that we were looking at it is that one vendor who says they prefer Teams for some reason, even though we already pay for both Google Meet and Zoom.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by bombcar on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @10:27PM (#32934179)
Teams is decent as a chat client. Zoom is more of a meeting client (it has chat feature but I’ve never met anyone who uses them).
Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by nikau on Thursday September 22, 2022 @12:23AM (#32934775)
Its not decent, its usable.

Decent would be able to switch chat tabs in under a second, reliable quoting (one minute ``` works, next minute it doesn't), an unread messages view like slack, and overall not being a laggy piece of crap.

It gets the job done, but its not decent.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by Thlom on Thursday September 22, 2022 @03:45AM (#32935887)
And the splitting of Teams/chat is really confusing. At least in my org the teams feature is rarely used, but we have chat groups for everything.

Other than that agree that it’s too slow to load chats, unread notifications doesn’t go away reliably, search sucks etc.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by sumedh on Thursday September 22, 2022 @10:38AM (#32939381)
For some reason you cannot create threads in chat groups but you can in Teams feature.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by ClassyJacket on Thursday September 22, 2022 @05:37AM (#32936652)
Yep, wasted some time on this at work recently too - 365 Apps for Business doesn't include Teams, strangely, despite that the cheaper 'Microsoft 365 Business Basic' does.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/business/compa...