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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by drewcoo on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @09:01PM (#32933634)
Microsoft had several different non-interoperable message apps, including two named "Messenger." Those golden days didn't look so shiny when we were there.

Luckily, there was Pidgin/Adium, so we could have one app to talk all the protocols.

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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by mBVth4DiupvBPY4 on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @09:18PM (#32933750)
I'm not sure what you're referring to with two non-interoperable message apps named Messenger? There was MSN Messenger/.NET Messenger/Windows Messenger/Windows Live Messenger, but those were interoperable (they were the same thing, just updates). They also managed to wrangle compatibility with Yahoo Messenger (although by then no one I knew still used Yahoo), and apparently Facebook Messenger, and then did a crappy merger/migration to Skype.

I'd go back to those days in a heartbeat, and I was there.

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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by coredog64 on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @11:47PM (#32934591)
NT had a built in messenger service that operated on named pipes. It was one of those services you disabled as soon as you could.
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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by virgulino on Thursday September 22, 2022 @02:25AM (#32935369)
To be fair, it was a local network toy, more akin to "talk" or "finger" in Unix.
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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by pdntspa on Thursday September 22, 2022 @01:35AM (#32935118)
I got into so much trouble as a kid for abusing that...
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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by merb on Thursday September 22, 2022 @02:24PM (#32942725)
net send *
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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by prpl on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @11:55PM (#32934637)
Trillian before that
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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by maturz on Monday September 26, 2022 @04:40AM (#32980790)
Pidgin (called Gaim) released December 31, 1998 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin_(software)

Trillian (propritary) released July 1, 2000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian_(software)

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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by seesaw on Thursday September 22, 2022 @01:28AM (#32935088)
and ICQ long before that …
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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by maturz on Monday September 26, 2022 @04:42AM (#32980803)
ICQ is not the same thing, that one used a single protocol. Pidgin/Adium/Trillian was able to talk with ICQ users and others without installing several applications.
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