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Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by drewrv on Saturday September 17, 2022 @09:47PM (#32883566)
The number of people here who claim to hate moderation blows my mind.

If someone thinks far right content is reasonable and good it would be refreshing to hear that take.

Instead people bend themselves into logical pretzels to oppose the idea of moderation for supposedly “content neutral” reasons. It’s tiresome.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by Karunamon on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:08PM (#32884058)
It would be equally refreshing to see "moderation" advocates acknowledge that it's not just the "far right" being bullied and censored off of mainstream platforms.

That straw man incinerated and replaced with "mainstream conservative content", you still are not going to get any examples because the one providing that will be voted/flagged into invisibility, or if not that, the resulting discussion will be derailed into quibbling about the specific example rather than the much more important general principle.

It would be not at all honest to imply that this forum is anything but generally hostile to the American right, regardless of how extreme or not the take is. With that in mind, it is no surprise that specific positions are only ever mentioned indirectly, or negatively.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by cycomanic on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:22PM (#32884128)
Yes no proponent of this law ever complained about ISIS recruiting accounts being banned by twitter.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by Karunamon on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:44PM (#32884222)
It is definitely federally illegal on the grounds of sanctions [1], if not treason, to knowingly provide service to the Islamic State. Twitter's hands are tied.

[1]: https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/Details.aspx?id=8759

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by cycomanic on Sunday September 18, 2022 @12:30AM (#32884438)
So I guess government restricting free speech is fine?
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by sfifs on Sunday September 18, 2022 @08:47AM (#32887086)
If you are in a democratic country, your society has explicitly granted your government authority through your voting systems to be the ultimate arbiter and parts of it can and does get revoked as the will of the society changes.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by indecisive_user on Sunday September 18, 2022 @01:08AM (#32884592)
Whataboutism. Government passing laws on free speech is unrelated to internet platforms enforcing arbitrary rules depending on the outrage mob of the week.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by cycomanic on Sunday September 18, 2022 @12:33AM (#32884456)
Also I am not certain that publishing tweets is a violation of sanctions?
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by concordDance on Sunday September 18, 2022 @06:37AM (#32886287)
Personally I complained about that to anyone who'd listen.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by concordDance on Sunday September 18, 2022 @06:39AM (#32886306)
I, for one, would like to hear far right takes just in case they're reasonable and good. I don't want to have to argue that any particular one is good without even being able to see them.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by treeman79 on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:10PM (#32884068)
Should boys be allowed into a girls locker room. Ignoring feelings of the girls. That is now considered a far right questions.

Should a million or two people be allowed to enter the country with no rules or oversight. Again, far right.

Should parents have a say in child’s education. Far right question.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by greesil on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:38PM (#32884196)
And then I found the strawmen three, but not the original ones we were looking for.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by Dylan16807 on Sunday September 18, 2022 @12:58PM (#32889150)
The context where those count as "far right" is when someone is lying about the actual issue.

Those three actual opinions are completely uncontroversial. But people pretend other issues are those issues so they can be the common-sense instant victor.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by etchalon on Sunday September 18, 2022 @01:32AM (#32884689)
Ah yes, because it's the questions and not the answers that have ideological implications.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by drewrv on Sunday September 18, 2022 @02:38AM (#32885031)
These takes are all over social media so if they’re supposed to be banned then the real crime is how bad social media giants are at tracking down this nonsense.

What mostly gets banned at big social media sites is spam and bots. The political speech that does get banned is overwhelmingly violent.

The right gets banned more because there is no liberal equivalent of the Christchurch shooter, the Buffalo shooter, the El Paso shooter, the Charleston shooter, the Tree of Life shooter.

The last president got kicked from Twitter because he tried to violently overthrow our government.

Kiwifarms was finally taken down by cloudflare only because of immediate threats of violence.

The right wing in the US has a violence problem. Culture war junk and social media moderation policies pale in comparison to this problem.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by tjpnz on Sunday September 18, 2022 @03:58AM (#32885451)
I'm not sure why you're trying to link Kiwi Farms to the far right. I wouldn't consider myself a fan of the site, but from what I've seen it's very much apolitical and political views from either side are generally frowned upon.

>Kiwifarms was finally taken down by cloudflare only because of immediate threats of violence.

A single threat of violence originating from a long dormant account which had posted once, in 2018. It was reported multiple times and removed by Kiwi Farms moderators within 30 minutes. It wouldn't be unreasonable to conclude that there might've been shenanigans at play. Possibly by the same actors behind the DDoS campaign.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by treeman79 on Monday September 19, 2022 @12:55PM (#32900852)
Your just repeating liberal lies.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by revscat on Saturday September 17, 2022 @10:54PM (#32883985)
Echoing the sibling to this, this is not a viewpoint I have seen expressed before. Do you have a link?
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by greesil on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:35PM (#32884180)
A link to their own opinions? Huh?
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by cdash on Sunday September 18, 2022 @01:14AM (#32884606)
It is both reasonable and good.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by drewrv on Sunday September 18, 2022 @02:01AM (#32884841)
It would be refreshing to hear this take for once :)
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by greesil on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:34PM (#32884172)
But not tiresome enough you keep engaging with the pretzly people :)
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by drewrv on Sunday September 18, 2022 @02:01AM (#32884839)
I yearn for the day we can defeat bad faith losers and get back to discussing what really matters: tabs vs spaces.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by kortilla on Saturday September 17, 2022 @10:34PM (#32883870)
“I’m flabbergasted these strawmen I’m attacking exist!”
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by greesil on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:36PM (#32884185)
Do you have a link to these strawmen?