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Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by bobsmooth on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:25PM (#32846258)
It's because of tiny gas stations in the middle of nowhere.
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by Mister_Snuggles on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:38PM (#32846324)
Gas stations are interesting here.

Here in Alberta, it's the law that you need to pay before you pump[0]. If you're at a modern pump you insert your card, it does a preauth for some amount (you can select common amounts, like $20 of fuel, or "fill up" which is like $125 or $250 depending on the station), then when you're done it does a purchase for the exact amount.

If you're not at a modern pump, or you're paying cash, you have to go into the store, prepay for something that you think will fill your tank, fill your car, then go back into the store and get your change.

[0] https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/station-owners-and-gas-and-dash-v...

Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by aidenn0 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:42PM (#32846711)
US is the same, except the pre-auth is set by the gas station owner, so you may need to go inside to pay with a debit card with less than that amount, and large trucks need two transactions to fill up
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by jdeibele on Thursday September 15, 2022 @01:15AM (#32847333)
I added some gas in Frenchglen, Oregon. Population 11. You went into the store, told the clerk (owner in this case, I'm sure) that you wanted gas, she turned on the pump, then you took a photo with your phone and took it back to her so she could charge you. $6.75/gallon, which was about $2 more than in Burns (population 2766).

She didn't have any problem taking a chipped card but I imagine there are self-serve places that can't. It was only in 2018 that Oregon allowed self-serve in counties with less than 40,000 people. 17 of the 36 counties qualify.

The advice I've seen with credit cards seems to be "always tap if you can" since that's not subject to skimming or stealing a PIN.

Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by inquirerGeneral on Thursday September 15, 2022 @03:19AM (#32848273)
There are not many anymore without a CHIP reader, because VISA and Mastercard FINALLY stopped the delay of shifting liability for all fraud to the individual gas station in summer 2021.
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday September 15, 2022 @03:39AM (#32848493)
All my local stations are still on mag stripes.
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by ThePowerOfFuet on Thursday September 15, 2022 @12:15PM (#32854244)
> All my local stations are still on mag stripes.

Then they continue to be part of the problem (and liability for fraud is on them).

Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by dymk on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:49PM (#32846375)
USPS delivers to them, guaranteed
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by derefr on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:33PM (#32846648)
Delivers... new gas pumps? Because often with self-serve pumps, the pump and the card reader are one-and-the-same. Probably modular in some internal sense, but not with an expectation of owner serviceability; more "call the manufacturer" serviceability.
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by dymk on Thursday September 15, 2022 @12:31PM (#32854497)
Delivers card readers... Gas pumps aren't a single monolithic unit.