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Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by TrueGeek on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @09:35PM (#32845931)
As someone who drives a car from the 60s on weekends this was terrifying.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by gcheong on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:01PM (#32846118)
At least you'll go out in style. Seriously though, it would be great see the older car styles brought back with modern safety standards or older cars in some way upgraded to modern safety standards.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by blt on Thursday September 15, 2022 @01:18AM (#32847351)
Not possible sadly. A lot of the appealing features on older cars (thin pillars, tall windows) are incompatible with current safety standards. Part of the reason why new cars tend to look clunky.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by Doxin on Thursday September 15, 2022 @03:03AM (#32848125)
I get why thin pillars don't work with modern safety standards, but surely tall windows are fine? There's plenty modern cars with fairly tall windows, like the renault kangoo?
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by DavidPeiffer on Thursday September 15, 2022 @08:43AM (#32850948)
I'm not having success finding the requirements, but I am almost certain there are requirements on window size. Purely by logic, as the window size increases, side impact rating will decrease.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by blt on Thursday September 15, 2022 @08:40PM (#32860473)
It's not the tall windows themselves that are dangerous, it's the accompanying low door sills. Higher door sills mean more of your body is protected by metal instead of glass.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by hef19898 on Thursday September 15, 2022 @05:52AM (#32849443)
You need both, slim pillars and large windows, to have the same aesthetic as classic cars.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by Sohcahtoa82 on Thursday September 15, 2022 @02:15PM (#32856163)
This came up recently in another thread on HN.

Safety stands dictate what happens if you collide with a pedestrian. These days, ever car has a sloped front-end. It's not just for aerodynamics, but it's designed to push pedestrians up and onto the hood, whereas the old "stylish" cars had completely flat front-ends, which made it like getting hit by a wall.

Even worse, some older cars had a front end that had negative slopes. If they hit a pedestrian, they'd be pushed down and under the car.

Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by system2 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:58PM (#32846440)
Look at what they did to mustang.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by hunter-gatherer on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @09:56PM (#32846080)
My thought as well. Might be time to trade my shit in.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by wwweston on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:00PM (#32846113)
Yeah, I'm having second thoughts about my 91 sedan with no airbag...
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by orangepurple on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:06PM (#32846150)
The lack of airbag is OK because you'll be decapitated by the steering column pushing the steering wheel through your neck (1:45 in linked video):

1998 Toyota Corolla vs 2015 Toyota Corolla (Auris):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xidhx_f-ouU

Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by kube-system on Thursday September 15, 2022 @01:15AM (#32847332)
It’s not the airbag that keeps the steering column from going into your neck, it’s the collapsible steering column.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by Sebb767 on Thursday September 15, 2022 @09:17AM (#32851455)
I think the implied point was that the steering column will kill you anyway, so the lack of an airbag is not a problem.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by aidenn0 on Thursday September 15, 2022 @12:07AM (#32846908)
The recent article about ejection seat failures makes me wonder about airbags
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by smileysteve on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:17PM (#32846548)
airbag is overrated as long as you wear a seatbelt. if it had had an airbag, it's likely to kill you either with phosphorus (early 90s) or metal shrapnel (late 90s to current)
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by speedgoose on Thursday September 15, 2022 @01:00AM (#32847243)
We haven’t watch the same crash test videos.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by userbinator on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:11PM (#32846175)
As someone whose daily driver is a "land yacht" from the early 70s, I'm not too worried... the crumple-zone is huge.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by ehnto on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:22PM (#32846582)
There were some cars with crumple zones back then, but you very likely do not have a crumple zone capable of protecting you. No matter how long your bonnet, you will probably take the brunt of the impact with your body in a car from the 70s.

Not saying don't drive it, I drive a 90s car with no airbags as a daily so I am only marginally better off.

Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by emmelaich on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:42PM (#32846710)
They don't crumple much, despite the size.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by hef19898 on Thursday September 15, 2022 @05:56AM (#32849474)
What ever other car hit will so. In such an accident, the combined crumble zone is halved so. If you a concrete wall, good luck so.

I know what would happen if I have a serious accident in my week-end hobby car so. A likely hood that is significantly reduced by current fuel prices. And a serious maintenance backlog...

Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by prmoustache on Thursday September 15, 2022 @06:47AM (#32849840)
While you can't control all the outside parameters we also don't tend to drive them the same way.
Re:Head-On Crash: 2009 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 1959 Bel Air (2009) by hef19898 on Thursday September 15, 2022 @07:15AM (#32850049)
Absolutely not! You tend to be much more careful with hobby cars then you are with average daily drivers.