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Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by TaylorAlexander on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:21PM (#32844842)
Brand new Visa Debit card from Chase Bank. I’d have thought it was one of the good ones. I should say I’m actually not using the official Apple magnetic case but the Popwallet brand which includes a little finger holder thing. Perhaps they’re using more powerful magnets than apple.
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by piva00 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:59PM (#32845160)
> This is why I really like the added security of the new Apple magnetic wallet I got.

> I should say I’m actually not using the official Apple magnetic case but the Popwallet brand

I don't understand why you would start this comment thread with a false statement though.

Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by TaylorAlexander on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @09:22PM (#32845825)
A few reasons.

One, it is a light hearted comment. I’m mostly just having some fun. Two, I suspect that the official wallet would have the same problem. The point is that apple designed a system where the wallet has to have magnets in it. The official apple product documentation states that there are in fact magnets in their wallet. And yes, just like my Popwallet brand, the inside of Apple’s wallet is magnetically shielded. The issue comes when you are handling the small removable wallet and your cards together. If you place your card next to the side of the wallet with magnets, you’re exposing it to the magnet without any shielding to protect your card.

I don’t have an official Apple wallet to test, but Apple repeatedly makes the same claim as the Popwallet - that the inside of the wallet is shielded. I think the problem is that apple designed a system where cards and magnets are close together, and during handling it is easy to expose the card to the unshielded side. This is why I think it is appropriate to jab at apple.

Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by jen20 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:25PM (#32846263)
> Two, I suspect that the official wallet would have the same problem.

But… it doesn’t.

Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by TaylorAlexander on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:14PM (#32846531)
Which problem? People are misunderstand me and thinking I am saying that the problem is poor magnetic shielding, aka that the cards when properly stored in the wallet are being demagnetized. But what I am saying is that when handling the wallet it is easy to accidentally touch the card to the outside of the wallet where the magnet is. Are you saying you can rub your cards on the outside of the magnetic wallet, on the magnet, and not demagnetize your cards? I’m still trying to determine whether people are talking about touching the card to the magnetic side of the wallet or they think I’m referring to putting the card in the wallet and having a failure due to poor shielding. I’m not talking about the latter.
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by jjulius on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @08:37PM (#32845483)
>I should say I’m actually not using the official Apple magnetic case...

Thanks, I needed this laugh.

Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @08:45PM (#32845546)
This is the type with the silver stripe printed on rather than embedded in the plastic?
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by stavros on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @09:17PM (#32845784)
It also wasn't actually a card with a magstripe. It may not have worked before, but it sure as hell didn't work after!
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by mlambie on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:58PM (#32845158)
So your point about Apple, is in fact, not about Apple at all. Cool.
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by Spooky23 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @09:20PM (#32845805)
Thanks to Apple, I had a bean burrito this afternoon that upset my stomach.

Not sure why iPhone engineering didn’t anticipate this happening, but the flatulence kept my boss away so everything worked out.

Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by TaylorAlexander on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @09:24PM (#32845838)
I’m mostly having fun, but Apple’s official wallet also has magnets on the back. The point is apple designed a system where a small removable wallet needs to be handled with your cards. That’s apple’s system design. And I suspect that you would encounter the same issue with Apple’s official wallet. Just like my Popwallet apple says the inside of the wallet is shielded. But the outside cannot be shielded as it has to magnetically attach to the phone. So unless the apple wallet has much weaker magnets, in which case it would fall off the phone easily, then it’s going to have the same issue. The problem is with the system apple designed.
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by girvo on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @09:32PM (#32845899)
> The problem is with the system apple designed

Is it? Numerous people up and down this thread who do use the official one have told you they've not experienced it, so I'm not sure your assumption holds.

Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers by TaylorAlexander on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @09:36PM (#32845936)
They’ve not experienced the issue when touching a magnetic card to the magnetic side of the wallet, or they’ve not experienced the issue when placing the card in the shielded section? Because what I’m saying is the former is unfortunately very easy to do, and that would be easy no matter which brand holder is used.