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Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by stinkytaco on Monday September 12, 2022 @12:25PM (#32812671)
I don't think "this is a problem for everyone" really precludes both informing people about the problem and hoping there is a solution to the problem. Just because Apple it "better", doesn't make it "good".

I personally feel some sort of regulatory framework around data collection and sales is not too much to ask.

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by joshmanders on Monday September 12, 2022 @12:41PM (#32812903)
My question is why is it always in discussions about Apple that people come out of the woodworks "worried about their privacy stance changing" and how we need regulatory stuff in place in the event Apple STARTS to be like Google, but nobody is ever in the Android stuff talking about how absolutely terrible Google is on this front?
Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by stinkytaco on Monday September 12, 2022 @12:44PM (#32812939)
Because everyone knows this about Google already. With Apple there seems to be some associated belief that it's better, when there's nothing really special about Apple. It's a publicly traded company and just because no one let the cow out of the barn yet, doesn't mean it couldn't in the future. Props to Apple for not doing a Google yet, but like someone said, I would never trust a corporation to put me above shareholder value.
Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by joshmanders on Monday September 12, 2022 @12:49PM (#32813007)
> I would never trust a corporation to put me above shareholder value.

Normally I'd agree with you, but I think Steve Jobs has a long history of not giving a shit about what shareholders say because he was more concerned with delivering the perfect product to customers, so I'd like to think that Tim Cook has also carried this torch too.

Yes they are a for-profit company, I still get that... But everyone has been shouting "Just wait, Apple will become just like Google once they realize how juicy that data is to their bottom line!!" for literally decades, yet... Nothing.

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by stinkytaco on Monday September 12, 2022 @01:01PM (#32813180)
> so I'd like to think that Tim Cook has also carried this torch too.

You'd like to think that. I would too. But even if it's true, Tim Cook will not be there forever either. Publicly traded companies are owned by shareholders who can and will do what they want. The last half century of business is littered with the corpses of once vaunted corporate bodies stripped by investors.

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by go_prodev on Monday September 12, 2022 @03:05PM (#32815221)
They are nothing like Google and have proven that over time. But they don't need to be because people trust them.

Many moons ago I worked for a large online gambling provider. They worked tirelessly to make their company trustworthy, make their games entertaining, and build relationships with their high rollers. Internally, they had strategies to squeeze as much money from every user as possible without causing distress. It was quite eye opening and I can't help but draw parallels between them and Apple.

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by thefz on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @03:04AM (#32821428)
Jobs went over and beyond to dictate to customers what HE thought they needed, not what they truly needed.