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Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by vwoolf on Saturday September 10, 2022 @08:48PM (#32795860)
California cities should take note.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by buzzert on Saturday September 10, 2022 @10:56PM (#32796461)
They can’t. Texas has much looser zoning laws, California has some of the strictest in the nation.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by barbacoa on Saturday September 10, 2022 @11:17PM (#32796528)
Houston doesn't even HAVE zoning laws.

Companies in Houston can and do build industries like petrochemical processing plants in or near residential neighborhoods.

For example: https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/arkema-explosion-r...

You can do almost anything you'd like since it is your land.

Very different culture to California.

Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by astrange on Saturday September 10, 2022 @11:37PM (#32796617)
It has everything but zoning laws; parking minimums are enough to ruin a city's land use.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by ericmay on Sunday September 11, 2022 @10:19AM (#32799825)
I think the OP was just pointing out that Houston doesn’t have zoning laws (in comparison to California). Note that this has not stopped Houston from becoming a sprawling suburb with massive amounts of parking lots. Houston didn’t build good density (or even a city really) despite the lack of zoning laws. I don’t think zoning is the culprit here but it’s difficult to compare cities and compare them across different states.

Also I’m not sure there’s a meaningful distinction between zoning laws and a local regulation like parking minimums. The effect is the same so zoning laws as a concept becomes a bit of a red herring unless we take zoning to include all general rules and regulations that govern how buildings can be built, transit, etc.

Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by colinmhayes on Sunday September 11, 2022 @11:22AM (#32800389)
Houston's parking minimums are absolutely the main culprit for the amount of sprawl it has even in its downtown areas. Every single business needs a parking lot so everything is in a strip mall and therefore unwalkable.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by ericmay on Sunday September 11, 2022 @12:41PM (#32801115)
Sure but I don’t think it’s helpful to try and separate those from zoning regulations here. Also I think even without those mandatory minimums a city like Houston is dead set on cars at all cost. Frankly, all of America is this way too it’s just that there are a few cities where geography has constrained sprawl. I fear for my own city, Columbus. The state, county, and city governments just do not understand that car-first infrastructure is a failed policy and will bankrupt us.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by gnicholas on Saturday September 10, 2022 @11:59PM (#32796702)
OT, but can I ask where you're from? I'm from CA and I generally hear "different from" (not "different to"). I've lived elsewhere in the US, but never Texas, and wouldn't have expected them to say "different to" — which I think of as being a British English construction. Do people say "different to" in Texas?
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by bigyikes on Sunday September 11, 2022 @12:19AM (#32796791)
I’m a native Texan, also lived in CA, and “different to” also sounds somewhat foreign to me.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by silverpepsi on Sunday September 11, 2022 @07:07AM (#32798621)
Midwest and I've definitely always believed "different to" was a British phrase and not even grammatical in US English (i.e. a native speaker who hadn't encountered it throughout life in UK publications would judge it as flat out wrong)
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by fy20 on Sunday September 11, 2022 @07:22AM (#32798699)
Native Brit, never lived in USA, "different to" sounds like what the King would say.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by idbehold on Sunday September 11, 2022 @07:21AM (#32798691)
Interesting. What about the opposite? "Similar from" sounds incorrect to me. So why do we prefer "different from" and "similar to" vs. "different to" and "similar from"? Why is there any implicit directionality?
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by unlockextralarg on Sunday September 11, 2022 @08:03AM (#32798909)
France is close to Germany but far from Canada.

Kefir is similar to yogurt but different from it.

You must conform to the law and not deviate from it.

Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by josuepeq on Sunday September 11, 2022 @02:31PM (#32802051)
The citizens of Saint Pierre and Miquelon might disagree with the first line in your statement.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by dilap on Sunday September 11, 2022 @08:58AM (#32799247)
Username "barbacoa" strongly suggests they live in TX/MX.

I'd guess it's the influence of Spanish, which uses "a" (~ "to" in English) for almost everything.

Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by gnicholas on Sunday September 11, 2022 @01:32PM (#32801530)
The username was part of what led me to ask. Probably not many UK/AU folks would choose that handle!

But you're right — I've heard some native Spanish speakers say "different to", and it's likely because they say "diferente a" not "diferente de" (where "de" typically translates as "from").

This situation raises an interesting philosophical question: is it ungrammatical for a native Spanish speaker living in CA to say this? I have always considered it to be an ungrammatical/incorrect usage. But coming from a British person I wouldn't consider it incorrect. I would consider them to be speaking a different dialect of English.

If a student said this in an English literature class in CA, my guess is that the teacher would correct the native Spanish speaker but not correct the British student. Or at least this would be my intuition as a native English speaker who studied linguistics a decade or two ago!

Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by dilap on Monday September 12, 2022 @09:51AM (#32810218)
I wouldn't be surprised if it was regionally common/"not weird", but I don't know!

A personal data-point: I'm a native English speaker from norcal/oregon, and my wife is a native Spanish speaker from Monterrey, Mexico.

Since learning Spanish and being exposed to her good, but definitely not native, English, I didn't even notice "different to", and it doesn't seem particularly "weird" to me. But if I think about it I'm pretty sure it would've seened very weird to me back when I was in Oregon!

(It goes the other direction too. E.g., she's caught herself saying "vino rojo" instead of "vino tinto" and "hacer linea" instead of "hacer fila".)

In general I think it's pretty common when two languages are in close-contact to get some cross-contamination like that.

And prepositions are often pretty arbitrary.

Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by epistasis on Saturday September 10, 2022 @11:05PM (#32796493)
People are working on it! Join CA YIMBY and help change the laws to work for the people, rather than wealthy homeowners.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by asdff on Sunday September 11, 2022 @04:47AM (#32797943)
They've been doing this in LA for years already

https://la.urbanize.city/post/another-koreatown-office-build... (2017)

Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by fells on Sunday September 11, 2022 @06:53AM (#32798568)
> California has some of the strictest in the nation.

Typically to stop the encroachment of commercial or industrial buildings into residential areas? Wouldn't this, offices into apartments, be rather amenable?

Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by tzs on Sunday September 11, 2022 @10:32AM (#32799929)
Aren't those looser zoning laws supposed to make it so they don't need to do things like this in Texas?
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by AmericanChopper on Saturday September 10, 2022 @11:02PM (#32796480)
If only there were a group of people responsible for making sure that the laws served the interests of the people. Perhaps California will establish such a system one day.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by kevingadd on Sunday September 11, 2022 @05:55AM (#32798315)
California lets ordinary voters permanently amend the constitution without the intervention of any Evil Lawmakers, which has worked out Great(tm) so far.
Re:Empty offices are becoming apartments in Texas’s big cities by rahimnathwani on Sunday September 11, 2022 @12:35AM (#32796857)
I guess you're talking about laws being designed to serve the interests of certain groups (e.g. teachers' unions) at the expense of everyone else.

If so, is that problem unique to California? If the problem is worse in California than elsewhere in the US, then what about the design of the system could be changed to improve the situation?