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Re:Cognitive ability is related to supporting freedom of spe... by gruez on Saturday September 10, 2022 @01:09PM (#32792507)
> I have not heard any group calling for free speech to be blocked. Who is calling for people to be arrested for what they say? Or to be blocked from being able to say it out loud?

That sounds like the logic behind "free speech zones". Yeah, we're not blocking protests, or arresting legal protesters. You just have to protest in a designated area 5 miles away where it won't disrupt everyone.

Re:Cognitive ability is related to supporting freedom of spe... by jimbob45 on Saturday September 10, 2022 @01:33PM (#32792718)
There has to be some reason behind protesting or we end up wasting resources arresting everyone and trying to fight over who gets to protest in prime space at prime time.

It’s better for everyone if we’re civilized about it.

Re:Cognitive ability is related to supporting freedom of spe... by bheadmaster on Saturday September 10, 2022 @02:05PM (#32792992)
> There has to be some reason behind protesting or we end up wasting resources arresting everyone and trying to fight over who gets to protest in prime space at prime time.

The fact that there are people out there wasting their own time and their own resources standing on the street for days and protesting is proof enough that there is something wrong. Why would anyone protest if there wasn't something (that they thought was) seriously wrong going on?

> It’s better for everyone if we’re civilized about it.

It's certainly better for the status quo, because "civilized" protest actually requires the other side to want to change things. In reality, it often does not, and "civilized" protests end up being exercises in futility. That's why protests happen - it's a form of pressure.

Re:Cognitive ability is related to supporting freedom of spe... by ls15 on Saturday September 10, 2022 @04:00PM (#32794134)
So the French should have refrained from storming the Bastille in 1789 and later executing the king, and instead should have brought the issues with liberty, equality and fraternity to Louis XVI's and the clergy's attention in a non-aggressive tone?
Re:Cognitive ability is related to supporting freedom of spe... by Lio on Sunday September 11, 2022 @04:52AM (#32797974)
Where do you stand on French farmers blocking ports by burning truck loads of sheep and cattle alive to stop rival imports?

It’s pretty cruel and brutal to me but it gets them what they want I guess.

The real question is, in a modern society, where freedom of speech exists, how disruptive should protests be allowed to be?

I don’t know the answer myself but I think some limits may be required.

Re:Cognitive ability is related to supporting freedom of spe... by ls15 on Sunday September 11, 2022 @07:19AM (#32798683)
> Where do you stand on French farmers blocking ports by burning truck loads of sheep and cattle alive to stop rival imports?

Sure, that's cruel. Unlike Louis XVI, the sheep and cows were not the ones who were accountable for a deeply unfair status quo.

> The real question is, in a modern society, where freedom of speech exists, how disruptive should protests be allowed to be?

Freedom of speech alone does not guarantee fairness.

> I don’t know the answer myself but I think some limits may be required.

What are the guarantees that legislative or executive power over such limits does not get abused for profit or ideology?