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Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by ericd on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:02PM (#32784878)
Hear hear, make it include tax and tip, too.
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by briffle on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:10PM (#32784961)
I live in Oregon (no sales tax), and it boggles my mind when travelling out of state that the $10 item at the store is suddenly $10.50 once tax is included. Why is it not included in the price?
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by koofdoof on Friday September 09, 2022 @06:49PM (#32785823)
I believe the logic is that it makes taxation something explicit that you are forced to notice. The idea being that an included tax would be invisible and allow for hidden changes and less recognition of the government's role.
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by clhodapp on Friday September 09, 2022 @11:59PM (#32787682)
That isn't a very compelling justification, since nothing stops businesses from continuing to include a tax estimate on the receipt even if it's included in the main price.
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by mFixman on Monday September 12, 2022 @06:34AM (#32808155)
But you do include credit card fees, which is something that should be more explicit.
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by a-user-you-like on Friday September 09, 2022 @08:26PM (#32786480)
Exactly right. We should work to lessen the tax burden instead of incentivizing raising it by hiding the number.
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by growse on Saturday September 10, 2022 @07:56AM (#32789849)
> Exactly right. We should work to lessen the tax burden instead of incentivizing raising it by hiding the number.

This misses the point though. The problem exists at any tax rate greater than zero. Doesn't matter if it's a penny or 100% of the price, the issue is that the advertised price is not the monetary value that's expected to be exchanged for that product/service.

Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by a-user-you-like on Saturday September 10, 2022 @07:57PM (#32795566)
The point is that you shouldn’t _want_ it to include taxes, as that incentivizes worse behavior in governments. You should be reminded when you purchase something of how much is added on top by the locals.
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by Spooky23 on Friday September 09, 2022 @10:21PM (#32787113)
There’s lots of exceptions, and it’s easier to compute a tax rather than figure out what taxable category something is and backing it out for tax exempt purchase.

More importantly, retailers don’t want to waste money and sowing confusion by advertising products with differing prices across jurisdictions.

Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by coryrc on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:21PM (#32785069)
IIRC you don't have to pay that in Washington, so you should still be paying the listed price :). Bit of an edge case though
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by mikestew on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:34PM (#32785198)
Though not exactly a [citation needed], but certainly [implementation details needed]. Like, what, you're in a Target in Vancouver, WA, you pull out your OR driver license, and now they wave the sales tax? Or save the receipt and take it off your OR taxes later? In the case of the former, okay, I'd do that. For the latter, no, I'm not adding a piece of paper to the pile to save $0.50.
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by techsupporter on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:37PM (#32785228)
This used to be the case, and Target was exactly one of the companies that made it exactly like this. You'd show your Oregon ID card and the sales tax would be removed (the seller could claim against their sales tax due for a non-resident sale).

However, this was intended to benefit border cities--Vancouver, WA in particular really liked it--but Washington State has no income tax and so is heavily reliant on sales tax. So, as of July 1 2019, the exemption (on state sales tax; local sales tax isn't covered here) may only be claimed post-transaction by the buyer: https://dor.wa.gov/taxes-rates/retail-sales-tax/sales-tax-ex...

Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by mikestew on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:47PM (#32785301)
Lived in WA for over 20 years, and TIL...thanks for a quick follow-up.
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by ganoushoreilly on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:20PM (#32785065)
State, County, and City taxes all vary wildly in different states. It's an annoyance for sure.
Re:FTC proposes rule to ban junk fees, bait-and-switch tacti... by kevincox on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:19PM (#32785056)
I would definitely try to include those.