> I say this for experience...
> It checks out for me...
Glad you've managed to avoid the pesky allure of bad science with your anecdotal approach!
Do you ask them to provide you with proof directly linking your pizza eating to hypertension? Would you just ignore their advice for lack of proof?
No one will be able to provide you direct link between 'lifestyle choices' and chronic disease at an individual level.
I wasn't implying I require that for anything. I was just pointing out that someone made broad, speculative claims about the general medical consensus of things like read meat and sugar, and then used an anecdote to support their own claims about those things. Take from that what you will! I just find it funny and worth mentioning.
There's lots of good science and history (! I guess that's just a bunch of anecdotes though) which demonstrates their ill effects.
Sometimes, a fact has been asserted widely enough that we stop requiring sources, even at HN
Nope, I said absolutely nothing to that effect.
Something tells me you don't understand the vast scale of pharmaceuticals, many of which keep people alive. Mostly "ineffective", come on.
>I say this for experience, until I fell ill I had no idea about either of those things.
Your personal experiences and biology cannot be extrapolated onto the world at large.
This may just be a function of increasing pollen overstimulating the immune system. In the last 30 years pollen counts have gone up 20+%[1]. Turns out trees like carbon and warmer air.
Anecdotally both of my kids have seasonal allergies, neither me nor my wife did when we were kids.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/pollen-se...
A rebuttal to the seed oil sophistry that seems to have managed to permeate every diet camp: https://www.the-nutrivore.com/post/a-comprehensive-rebuttal-...
Everyone is so desperate to have a counternarrative take on nutrition that they'll believe whatever fad that passes through the internet.
The same goes with saturated fat = healthy broscience and the dismissal of the lipid hypothesis.
There seems to be an animalistic hatred toward a book that really sheds the light on why eating industrial waste is not the healthiest thing in the world.
I also agree health is largely a result of lifestyle choices for most-- it is what we can control.
I can't even begin to contemplating support of many of your other statements. i wish you health and peace of mind.
Re: the cholesterol, check out my other comment.
Thank you, wishing you the same.
Are you saying cholesterol and saturated fats aren't unhealthy? I'm confused.
Bottom line is saturated fat is not implicated whatsoever in any negative health outcomes.
That probably means a whole ton of marketing material touting Omega oils has to be thrown away.
I agree about 'big pharma marketing.' part spreading misinformation that all these can be 'treated' with drugs that even educated fall for https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32744412
Not acknowledging that health is largely a result of lifestyle choices, and that pharmaceuticals are mostly ineffective and often harmful.
And now for the specifics:
- lies/bad science about meat (particularly red meat) being unhealthy
- lies/bad science about cholesterol & saturated fat being unhealthy
- not attacking sugar and processed foods at the highest level; should be treated like smoking if not even more harshly
I say this for experience, until I fell ill I had no idea about either of those things. Like many of my peers, grew up with tons of sugar, and many misconceptions about what is healthy (although thankfully to a lesser extent than what's common nowadays)
I'd also add that these things compound over the generations. We are more sensitive than our parents. It checks out for me, every generation has worsening autoimmune symptoms.