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Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by simonh on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @04:17PM (#32756180)
A free emergency service is despicable because it’s not forever. Really?
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by tpmx on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @04:55PM (#32756718)
Yes. It's long (I think since the early days in the 80s) been a tenet in mobile phone industry that emergency calls always need to be free. You route them best to your technical ability - anything else is unethical.

With any cellular phone it's possible to dial the local emergency number.

Doesn't matter if your current operator has coverage, the phone will find the network that has the best coverage. There's still explicit validation of this capability for new phone devices.

You don't even need a SIM card.

But now Apple has ended the practice.

Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by jshzglr on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:10PM (#32756937)
Would it be more ethical if they could but never did release this feature? Because that is essentially what you are advocating for, considering no public company could foot the bill in perpetuity.

The way this probably plays out is by the time the 2 years is up or shortly thereafter this will be subsidized by the gov.

Apple is leaving quite a bit of money on the table here, while simultaneously spending quite a bit. Wipe the entitlement from your eyes and recognize this for what it is.

Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by tpmx on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:18PM (#32757054)
> considering no public company could foot the bill in perpetuity.

iPhone margins do allow for it.

> Wipe the entitlement from your eyes and recognize this for what it is.

Sir, let me very calmly ask you to please behave better in discussions here.

Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by jshzglr on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:35PM (#32757274)
So you can call certain behavior despicable but I can't call your behavior entitled. That sounds pretty entitled.
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by number6 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:22AM (#32761890)
The body of the missing person had been found after 4 days of search. She still held her Phone in her hand displaying the Message: "Please update your credit card information to purchase this subscription. The free usage ended 6 days ago".
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by simonh on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:29PM (#32757208)
It was a mandatory requirement from the governments that issued the spectrum licenses, that's all.
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by happyopossum on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @04:56PM (#32756728)
That’s never been the case for satellite service - ever.
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by tpmx on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:06PM (#32756871)
Well, this is the first time a mainstream phone gets satellite service.
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by kube-system on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:10PM (#32756939)
That is true and this may set a new precedent, but connectivity requirements in the past were always placed on carriers before, and never phone manufacturers.
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by matt_attack on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:25PM (#32759327)
Phone manufacturers didn't offer services before. In this case Apple is the carrier (much like a MVNO) for the service.
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by astrange on Thursday September 08, 2022 @05:21AM (#32763200)
That’s a per-country regulatory requirement - it’s true in most countries but the internet tells me it’s not true in the UK.
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by happyopossum on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @04:55PM (#32756723)
Despicable? This is a huge investment for Apple (look at Globalstar’s SEC filing for details), it’s free for 2 years, and we don’t even know what (if anything) it will cost after that. But you’re confident it’s “despicable”.

That smacks of some serious entitlement man…

Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by malfist on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:18PM (#32757058)
I hate apple because of vendor lock in and nonsense with their walled garden. But seriously, GP is deluded.

Satellite emergency services has never been free, even if you buy an garmin device for this, they don't operate if you're not paying your monthly bill.

Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by pxeboot on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:08PM (#32759156)
There were many Personal Locator Beacon's that worked without a subscription. They were more popular before the inReach, but still available.
Re:Emergency SOS via satellite is included for free with iPh... by goleary on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:01PM (#32756811)
a bit of strong reaction given you have no idea whether or not it includes lifetime global 911 after the 2 years...