Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth

Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by torstenvl on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:13AM (#32749574)

Trappist is not a type of beer. It is a type of Catholic monastic order. They just happen to make decent beer (and jam, and many other things).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trappists

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Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by stinos on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @09:52AM (#32750648)

Trappist is not a type of beer.

Ok I guess in English the correct term is indeed 'trappist beer', but in Dutch 'trappist' is used to refer to the beer as well as the monk/nun; there's a lot more talking about beer than about those monks obviously, so you can imagine that for me 'trappist' means 'beer' no matter what language so pardon my linguistic mistake :)

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Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by sam_lowry_ on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @11:40AM (#32752082)

Same in French. I guess that whenever one sees the word trappist in a conversation, beer comes in mind first. Unless you are in a history class.

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Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by biztos on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:13PM (#32755141)

In Hungary, Trappist is first and foremost a cheese.

I would even call it the default cheese, though like many cheeses it was apparently invented in France:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trappista_cheese

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Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by samatman on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:29AM (#32749701)

So this is a category error much like saying French is not a type of poodle. I assure you, it is, just as, well, two can play at this game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trappist_beer .

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Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by torstenvl on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:51AM (#32749890)

The link you posted shows the opposite: Trappists brew many types of beer, though arguably Trippels are the most common lately.

Saying Trappist is a type of beer is like saying French is a type of poodle — if you used the label only to refer to a poodle bred in France.

A more apt comparison is saying Bordeaux is a type of wine. Bordeaux is a region in France; it is well-known for 5-6 types of wine; any Bordeaux wine that qualifies for AOC proudly displays its Bordeaux heritage on the bottle.

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Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by JoachimS on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @12:13PM (#32752542)

Or Champagne, which are different kinds of sparkling wine made in Russia:

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/russia-champagne-law-sparkl...

(I see myself out now.)

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Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by mgsouth on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @02:04PM (#32753975)

Which raises the question[0], "Why French poodle?" Is there a non-French variety? Wikipedia indicates not [1], although they probably originated in Germany. [2]

[0] Not "begs". Never "begs the question," even if I am being pompously pedantic. [0']

[0'] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question#Vernacula...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle [1']

[1'] TIL the word "cynalogy"--"the study of matters related to canines or domestic dogs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynology

[2] Also, while the Germans refer to the breed as "Pudel," the French call them "Caniche". So of course in English we call them <"French"> <German word>.

[3] Rabbits! They went down this hole!

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Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by modernpink on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @01:02PM (#32753215)

There are category category errors being committed on all sides. The confusion is arising from the word "type". To some, a "type" of beer is a style of beer characterised by common ingredients, methods and appearance. To others a "type" of beer may be as loosely defined as simply the kind of container it is stored in (can, bottle, draught).

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Re:Speculoos-2c: A new potentially habitable earth by AlecSchueler on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:43AM (#32749816)

And the type of beer they make is known as Trappist Beer, which is what the project is named after. See: https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1023/

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