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Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by tshaddox on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:07AM (#32733096)
There’s nothing wrong with not being the target audience of a show, but I find the bit about subtitles in 14 languages a bit odd. How could that possibly be an indicator that you’re not the target audience?
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by mazdayasna on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:31AM (#32733248)
I believe the implication is that the priority is for a general international audience ala Disney
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by tobr on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:56AM (#32733423)
So is OP under the impression that the Jackson trilogy is not available in 14+ languages? Or that the Tolkien books aren’t, for that matter?
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by red_trumpet on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @02:37AM (#32733712)
Well, one could argue that Tolkien didn't plan on his books to be translated in that many languages. I'm not sure why this matters at all, though.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by tshaddox on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @02:52AM (#32733807)
He was a philologist who oversaw translations during his lifetime and even wrote a guide for translators to use when translating fictional names. It sounds like he was picky and critical of translations, but not because he didn’t want them to exist.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by red_trumpet on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @10:32AM (#32737601)
I didn't mean to imply that Tolkien opposed translations.

Maybe I'm being a bit naive, but intuitively I would think that most writers do not write a book with the explicit intention of the book being translated. The first intended audience is typically readers in the original language.

This is opposed by producing a series for Amazon, where it is mostly clear that the intended audience is world wide, talking many languages (in particular if it is about such a famous topic). And I wouldn't be surprised if this fact does impact the production of a work.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by tshaddox on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @10:21PM (#32745662)
> intuitively I would think that most writers do not write a book with the explicit intention of the book being translated. The first intended audience is typically readers in the original language.

I don’t think so. I think most writers are only fluent in a very small number of languages and they choose one of those languages to write in.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by benwad on Thursday September 08, 2022 @06:21AM (#32763579)
Remember that English wasn't quite as dominant in Tolkien's day as it is today. In the 50s most people in e.g. France wouldn't speak English.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by tshaddox on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @02:49AM (#32733792)
Or simply an audience targeted by something other than the language they speak. As others have mentioned, it’s very common for new original content from major streaming services to have subtitles in many languages. Even if that weren’t the case, it wouldn’t be surprising for a Lord of the Rings show, given that the book series has been widely translated and the author himself was a philologist who reportedly meticulously oversaw early translations of his works.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Shorel on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:53AM (#32734228)
A complete disregard for languages, and talking about a Tolkien adaptation! Preposterous!

Tolkien was so into languages he edited the Oxford dictionary.

And besides, this feels like English chauvinism.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Veuxdo on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:30AM (#32733235)
Nobody is the target audience when you're aiming for everybody...
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by IshKebab on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:54AM (#32733408)
But... they're aiming for every language not every person surely. Do you think that only English speakers want to watch good fantasy TV?
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Veuxdo on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @02:13AM (#32733557)
I wouldn't be so sure. There's a reason why Big Dumb Action movies get cranked out while comedies have largely died: they do well in the foreign market. This is basic least-common-denominator thinking that leads to bland schlock.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Vespasian on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:34AM (#32734120)
Based solely on my anecdotal data it seems like many comedies where I live are local (aka not from the US).

Some of them do well others don't but they are certainly there.

Is there a similar set of movies in the US (aimed at the national/state level market) or is all the money sucked up by productions for the international market.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by mrits on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:33AM (#32733264)
I don't know what Amazon pays for subtitles but I could probably get it done for around $50/language. Hardly a relevant metric
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by dclowd9901 on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:14AM (#32733956)
I seriously doubt that.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by xxs on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @05:02AM (#32734659)
for 50$, I mean they could use "google translate". Seriously though localizations and translations are a serious business and important. Not everyone speaks (or understand movie/tv show) English.