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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by deepcyanide on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:45AM (#32724880)
Is it too early to say the internet is done for because it's looking that way to me. keffals has given the government the recipe to kill off any website they want gone. I'm hearing that keffals creatures are now attacking TOR to get them to drop kiwi too.

This isn't going to stop, 4chan is definitely next then every other site that isn't mainstream.

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by goldenchrome on Monday September 05, 2022 @12:46PM (#32726335)
I don’t think 4chan is next. I believe the site has staying power because its users are anonymous. Anonymity means it’s very difficult for leaders to emerge which means it’s difficult to rally behind a particular cause. This means it’s difficult for 4chan to grow in influence as an organized force. It’s just a steady state of low-level chaos, which is good for containment. I’m also quite confident that the FBI monitors the site and I don’t think they want to see all those borderline people scurry off into different corners of the internet should the site go offline.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by spoonjim on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:55PM (#32727851)
Speaking from personal experience, when a “bad” forum is shut down the members are not usually successful in spreading their toxicity into other areas. Sadly it sort of just dies.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by julianbuse on Monday September 05, 2022 @05:38PM (#32729808)
sadly?
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by spoonjim on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:00AM (#32733053)
I mean sadly for me and probably better off for everyone else
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by _vvaw on Monday September 05, 2022 @06:45PM (#32730386)
Kiwi Farms users are anonymous too. The owner of KF regularly cooperates with American law enforcement.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by Febra33 on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:48PM (#32728562)
How is the government involved in the decision made by a private company? I fail to see the point you're trying to make here. Also, I seriously doubt that Keffals is influencing the entire "government" (what country are we even talking about). Also, "attacking TOR"? Do you know by any chance how TOR works?
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by jfax on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:40PM (#32728433)
4chan's experienced this kind of attack back in 2003, the year it was found. Users from another website contacted its host over it's hosting of lolicon. moot diplomatically resolved the issue and 4chan has more-or-less been up since. The lindy effect dictates that, having experienced these kinds of shocks along the way, 4chan will be up for another 15 years.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by UncleMeat on Monday September 05, 2022 @07:41PM (#32730792)
I visit some "non mainstream" D&D forums. I'm pretty sure I've seen the n-word written zero times there. Not a single forum avatar is a swastika. I'd be cautious about elevating KF to the level of "every other site that isn't mainstream."
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by daptaq on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:02PM (#32727202)
> I'm hearing that keffals creatures are now attacking TOR to get them to drop kiwi too.

How is that even possible? Would the Tor project hard-code an onion-site it won't resolve?

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by stepupmakeup on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:14PM (#32727358)
Anything is possible at this point. Even the administrator of Kiwi Farms is expecting APNIC to revoke their /24, because the Twitter mob has been very vocal of who their next harassment targets are.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by jacooper on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:05PM (#32727995)
Has there even been a precedent of a domain being revoked for such a thing?
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by golf1052 on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:35PM (#32728375)
No it's never happened.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by jacooper on Monday September 05, 2022 @07:16PM (#32730618)
Let's hope it stays this way.

Its not that far fetched to imagine a campaign against verisign to remove a .com domain.

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by DaSHacka on Monday September 05, 2022 @05:05PM (#32729471)
Yes, and they actually already discussed such a possibility back when the Daily Stormer first moved to Tor[0].

They ultimately shot down the idea, and just put out a statement condemning them instead[1][2].

I think it's unlikely they would implement such a thing for KiwiFarms now that they've already set the precedent with a site that is arguably much worse.

[0] https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/issues/23270

[1] https://twitter.com/torproject/status/898256109789687808

[2] https://blog.torproject.org/tor-project-defends-human-rights...

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by faangiq on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:12PM (#32727328)
You’re at least ten years late.