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Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by paganel on Monday September 05, 2022 @01:49AM (#32720979)
Loading our power infrastructure with the needs of tens of millions of cars which now rely on gasoline/diesel but which, in the future, will need electric power in order to function is downright criminal in this current geo-political climate.

First, we don't even have the resources to provide electric power at decent prices as things are right now, that's why your nice 70-year lady living with her 2 cats in a house in Cornwall or something like that will see her power invoice multiply by a factor of 3 or 4 at least, thinking that bringing in even more demand for power will improve things when it comes to price is, I repeat, criminal (that old lady presumably needs power in order to heat herself during the winter, making that power exponentially more expensive won't help with that).

Second, we don't have the infrastructure. Maybe if we'll invest trillions of dollars and euros we'll be able to connect the new nuclear plants and solar farms to the main grid and transport the new extra power between big population centers, but at the "last mile" stage things are awful, for example I'm 99% sure my apartments building cannot handle one in two apartments (let's say) charging their cars at night, especially during the summer, the thing will just catch fire.

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by terrio on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:56AM (#32721332)
Why are you so sure? Don't your Appartment not use any oven or hair dryer or dryer at all?

At minimum you can easily charge a car with 1.5kwh. that's less than a oven which might just eat 5-6 kWh while baking stuff.

It might need a little bit of smart charging, given, but we know how to build this.

In Germany it's expected that ev add 10% to the current energy consumption.

It's btw more efficient to burn the gas for energy in highly efficient big power plants were it's also much easier to filter the shit out and then using electronic engines (EVs) just because engines are that inefficient.

And in worst case we will still be able to have ice were it is really not doable until it is.

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by dillondoyle on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:39AM (#32721224)
Sounds like you're in the UK.

It does feel like we're going to have at least 5 years of pain during this transition.

It also feels like the market isn't truly fair on price making the pain hurt more. Sure it's legal to rake in record profit but it's not ethical.

But I'm in the U.S. and finally have some slight optimism on climate future for first time in my adult life.

The climate bill provides incentives, credits, straight up money for all sides of this chain.

From raw materials -> clean energy capacity/manufacturing -> EV, charger, & battery production -> and finally the consumer EVs but also energy savings in upgrades & new construction.

~400b depending how you add it up.

Not enough. But not nothing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/28/climate/biden-climate-dea...

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by Tade0 on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:13AM (#32721431)
> Second, we don't have the infrastructure.

UK electricity generation peaked around 2008 or so and is currently ~20% below that level.

There's ample infrastructure in place to send all this power around.

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by nharada on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:05AM (#32721057)
Well the only alternative is “stop using cars” which I don’t see America agreeing to. I think we’ll have to pay.
Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by aembleton on Monday September 05, 2022 @09:03AM (#32723853)
How much electricity does an oil refinery require to create 1 litre of petrol?