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Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by quickthrower2 on Sunday September 04, 2022 @07:17PM (#32718711)
Kind of depends what you are getting paid, but if it is less then $100k say, you can easily find remote jobs that pay more, play them off against each other. The companies are using sharp business practice to get you as cheap as possible, you can do the same to get as much as possible. Apply for 100 remote jobs, interview, smash the interviews, ask for top $ from all of them.

See https://remoteok.com/, etc.

If on he other hand, you are paid $200k and the colleagues are being paid $400k ... well you are well paid, might be harder to get a fully remote pay rise, but not impossible I think.

Now lets say you are paid $50k for argument sake, and you talk to your boss saying you want $100k and you can get that elsewhere. They would be crazy to let you go as $100k is still probably less than they are paying in the US if you are doing the same job.

What I have learned is the 'policy' evaporates under enough pressure. Of course they may still say no, in which case look around.

If they are paying you less than you are worth, they are not your friend, don't feel bad about moving to another job immediately.

Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by jlkuester7 on Sunday September 04, 2022 @10:06PM (#32719736)
> If they are paying you less than you are worth, they are not your friend, don't feel bad about moving to another job immediately.

This 1000℅. Honestly, even if they are paying you what you are "worth", remember the company is not your friend. (You may have friends that work there and you may feel loyal to those beside you in the trenches. That is great! But never forget that the company does not exist for your sake and you do not exist for the company!) Do what is best for you and your's and do not feel bad about it!

Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by timmyboop on Sunday September 04, 2022 @11:32PM (#32720222)
>Kind of depends what you are getting paid, but if it is less then $100k say, you can easily find remote jobs that pay more, play them off against each other.

Someone from Asia who is pretty good at their work can get a fully international remote job that pays north of 100K USD? Is this practically possible or is it super difficult like say getting into MIT or CMU. I'm asking because this seems farfetched and I have no idea how these things actually do play out in the real world.

Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by karaokeyoga on Monday September 05, 2022 @12:01AM (#32720368)
I am in Tokyo, working for an SF-based startup, and am making $180K/year. Translated into yen, it's about 2 or 2.5 times the amount I could hope to get locally. Full disclosure: I have no university degree, and am not a guru/superstar/10x engineer. I am intermediate-senior and competent, no more.
Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by quickthrower2 on Monday September 05, 2022 @01:04AM (#32720749)
Do you mind me asking: Did you get that job through a job board or connections?
Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by karaokeyoga on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:57AM (#32721334)
Job board, no relationship to anyone at the company … they reached out to me (my resume was available on the job board).
Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by newaccount74 on Monday September 05, 2022 @05:54AM (#32722416)
Do you have some specific skill set or lots of experience in a domain the company was looking for?
Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by karaokeyoga on Monday September 05, 2022 @07:22AM (#32723092)
React!
Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by tasuki on Monday September 05, 2022 @05:06PM (#32729478)
Asia is a big place. I'm in Eastern Europe, $100k is very possible when working remotely. Also, $100k is an outrageously good salary here - think 5 times the local average.
Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by tluyben2 on Sunday September 04, 2022 @09:48PM (#32719651)
But 100k or, actually, 50k is very high for outsourcing countries. There are many talented and senior programmers working for less than 20k; the thing is, they wouldn’t pass the ‘modern’ interview practices of western companies. Language or culture or both prevents them from getting passed even the first step, and many companies have nonsense processes in place that require many steps over many weeks. It is a competitive advantage these days, in the west or elsewhere, to not interview at all outside a 15 minute chat; people will drop their wages considerably, in the US, EU and elsewhere, to not go through (often humiliating if they are senior devs) interview garbage I have noticed over the past 10 years or so.

100k is high though; 100K in the eu is still not common at all. I know many people (with uni degrees and senior engineering positions) in Nl/uk/de who would switch jobs today if you offered something that. If wfh and reasonable interviews of course.

Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by quickthrower2 on Sunday September 04, 2022 @10:31PM (#32719865)
Possibly: 100k is probably high(er) than it used to be because of exchange rate changes too. That is 87000GBP or 100000EUR roughly! I am in Sydney Australia, pay is higher than Europe, maybe on par with London, and lower than US tech cities or those "crypto" fully remote type jobs.
Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by benhurmarcel on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:58AM (#32721666)
> They would be crazy to let you go as $100k is still probably less than they are paying in the US if you are doing the same job.

But they wouldn't replace him with an American for >$100k, they'd replace him with another local for $50k.

Re:Ask HN: Location based pay is killing my motivation, how ... by louhike on Monday September 05, 2022 @05:22AM (#32722184)
When I look for remote jobs, it seems most of them require to be in the same country or the salary isn’t that great.