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Re:Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind... by martin8412 on Sunday September 04, 2022 @03:25AM (#32710709)
That's the default for everyone working in Europe
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Re:Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind... by rolisz on Sunday September 04, 2022 @05:05AM (#32711236)
Europe is composed of a lot of countries, which all have different laws. In Romania, minimum vacation days are 20 days and very few companies give more than that, except maybe for seniority.
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Re:Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind... by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday September 04, 2022 @04:20AM (#32711009)
It's not. Most jobs in most countries get less than 30 days vacation. Germany's German speaking neighbors it's 25 days.
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Re:Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind... by PicassoCTs on Sunday September 04, 2022 @05:13AM (#32711270)
Is it really though? I ve been going around european companies and its all work till you drop 80h culture and no holiday, cause we need a guy on standbye. That stuff only ever exists on paper.
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Re:Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind... by ahartmetz on Sunday September 04, 2022 @05:56AM (#32711474)
Which companies in which countries? I'm in Germany and I have never ever seen or (from friends and acquaintances) heard of vacations not taken due to pressure from the employer. It's about as common as an employer arbitrarily deciding to transfer less than the agreed amount of salary at the end of the month - maybe some very dubious employers have done it at some point, but it's not something to worry about.

What is fairly common is employers reminding employees to take their vacation days before they expire. Vacation days from year n expire in April or so of year n+1. That is intended to prevent postponing vacations to never (maybe until switching jobs).

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Re:Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind... by PicassoCTs on Sunday September 04, 2022 @10:40AM (#32713557)
Im in germany, and the pressure is there. Old employer at least gave vacations, but shifted them as needed. New employer basically denies vacations categorically, cause nobody else can take care of the system.

All this talk about labour laws etc. its like people hallucinating, cause in my world this just aint real.

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Re:Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind... by pjmlp on Sunday September 04, 2022 @12:08PM (#32714487)
https://www.arbeitsrecht.de/

Complaining without asking for legal help, well don't complain.

And given we are talking about IT here, IG Metal is another place to get help.

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Re:Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind... by pjmlp on Sunday September 04, 2022 @06:23AM (#32711583)
Which countries, I have worked in several European countries, and none of them were that bad.

That looks like a case that needs to be reported to work inspection authorities.

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Re:Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind... by pjmlp on Sunday September 04, 2022 @06:25AM (#32711589)
Nope, it is common in central and northern Europe, in other countries that would be part of extra package on top of what the local law requires.
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