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Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by throwayyy479087 on Friday September 02, 2022 @01:46PM (#32693620)
Amazon.com is likely the most a/b tested piece of software on the planet. It is ugly and clunky because that's what _works_ - same with Alibaba and Yahoo JP.
Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by robertlagrant on Friday September 02, 2022 @02:58PM (#32694542)
It's ugly and clunky because a) Jeff used to guard it fiercely, b) because a/b testing is not guaranteed to get the best results, and c) you might just be on the "ugly" a/b test.
Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by okyanusoz on Friday September 02, 2022 @03:27PM (#32694819)
They could make the UI better if they wanted to, but they don't, because of reliability.

For most enterprises, if it works, don't touch it.

Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by hk__2 on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:15PM (#32695796)
> Amazon.com is likely the most a/b tested piece of software on the planet. It is ugly and clunky because that's what _works_ - same with Alibaba and Yahoo JP.

This was on the HN frontpage yesterday: "Be good-argument-driven, not data-driven" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32651763

I’ve seen countless bad decisions being taken because the A/B test was badly done. You can’t assume that some decision was good JUST because they A/B-tested it.

Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by franczesko on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:42PM (#32696043)
"It is ugly and clunky because that's what _works_"

It's a legacy code nightmare, but customers are used to it and this is #1 reason why it will not be changed anytime soon.

Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by lupire on Saturday September 03, 2022 @03:57PM (#32705504)
It's been ugly forever, and there have been several wholesale rewrites (C++ -> Perl -> Java, and JavaScript and whatever is in native apps)
Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by avgDev on Friday September 02, 2022 @06:47PM (#32696577)
Amazon ios app is pretty trash. I keep getting blank white screens, it has been this way for months.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/tto68z/anyone_else_get...

Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by abvdj2 on Friday September 02, 2022 @02:37PM (#32694306)
That is not true, some parts might be clunky because that works, but there's also many parts that are clunky simply because it's hard to make a change without breaking anything. But amazon doesn't care due to their strong position in the market and because AWS is their cash-cow anyways.
Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by ikrenji on Friday September 02, 2022 @02:29PM (#32694204)
i read somewhere that bezos personally controls the look and feel of amazon and thats why it looks like that. some amazon UX/UI director even quit over it
Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by thomasjudge on Friday September 02, 2022 @06:17PM (#32696334)
Probably not so much anymore..
Re:Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon by the_cat_kittles on Friday September 02, 2022 @04:05PM (#32695172)
its not what works, its whats good enough, or not bad enough to cause an obvious problem. well maybe thats what you mean by "works" i dunno