Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by donmcronald on Friday September 02, 2022 @02:52AM
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I meant the jack. I know a lot of people that try to use their phones for 3+ years and I get my own phones used from a friend I know that owns a shop that does phone repairs. Maybe I don’t have a big enough sample, so it’s too subjective, but the jack fails plenty based on what I see in my social circle.
AFAIK the Essential phone was brutal for jack failures. My friend (repair shop owner) gave me an LG V60 this year and basically said it’ll be great until the USB-C port wears out.
My newest iPad with USB-C seems like the jack is already flaky while old iPads with lightning ports are all good even with the abuse they have to endure from kids they were handed down to.
I have so little faith in USB-C ports that I’ve started trying to buy magnetic adapters for all my stuff.
People break the stupid wafer trying to clean them.
They suck IMO.
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by orlp on Friday September 02, 2022 @03:52AM
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One of my favorite little features of the M1 MacBook is that the charging cable is only connected by contact enforced by magnets so that there isn't even a jack that can be damaged. Pulling on the charging cable simply breaks the connection.
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by sph on Friday September 02, 2022 @04:35AM
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MagSafe is great, but it's been around since 2006
Sadly it's patented so no one else could implement in their laptop.
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by smcl on Friday September 02, 2022 @06:18AM
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It’s come and gone though hasn’t it? I seem to recall Apple switched to something else (USB-C?) and a few here on HN were annoyed because MagSafe was so good - I still have a ~2013 Macbook Air with magsafe that I use in the kitchen. If it’s back then that’s great news for Apple laptops - I haven’t paid attention to them for a while
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by libeclipse on Friday September 02, 2022 @08:18AM
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It is back, yes
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by pmontra on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:05AM
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Up to 2026? And Apple could license the technology. Patents are also made for that.
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by ohgodplsno on Friday September 02, 2022 @07:56AM
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Apple has shown that they are not interested in bettering the cable situation and just want you to buy overpriced cables and lock you in. If they were, they would have licensed/opened MagSafe, Thunderbolt, etc.
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by crtasm on Friday September 02, 2022 @04:14PM
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They could licence the magsafe tech to other brands without allowing them to sell cables/chargers for Apple devices, maybe even alter the size/shape as a requirement.
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by worthless-trash on Friday September 02, 2022 @04:04AM
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Do you have a magnetic USB C that supports fast charge ? I haven't had much luck finding one.
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by donmcronald on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:09PM
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No. The dual screen case for my LG phone has one built in though.
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by worthless-trash on Thursday September 08, 2022 @09:33PM
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The search continues.
Re:USB 4 version 2 promises 80 Gbps speeds over existing cables
by raffraffraff on Friday September 02, 2022 @12:54AM
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Not so sure about that. I have a phone with USB-C and it's the first time I've ever had a jack fail (after about 2 years of nightly charging). Luckily it's a fairphone, so I can replace the bottom assembly cheaply.
The USB consortium already botched that badly with mini-A, so learned from that in the design of micro-A and then C. C was also influenced heavily by Apple's experience with lightning (Apple is a core member of the USB Consortium).
The physical part of type C is quite good: the nice grounding shell (preferable IMHO to lightning) high frequency design, and most importantly (per your comment) failure is mostly directed to the cable, not the jack (one of mini-A's problems) since a bad cable can be replaced while a damaged jack these days means replacing the device.