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Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by marcodiego on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:47AM (#32678148)
One of my students got a job offer in Portugal before the pandemic. He personally came to thank me for being his teacher; he is a good, dedicated student.

Pandemic came, he stayed in Brazil doing remote work. Found him a few days ago. He told me he gave up going to Portugal and decided to stay in Brazil for now mostly because cost of living there. His initial salary would be 1.6K euros.

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by marcodiego on Thursday September 01, 2022 @02:56PM (#32681271)
For people asking about the salary: yes it is per month. Also compare it to Brazilian reality: median programmer salary here is, according to a quick google search: "The estimated salary for a computer programmer is $62,420 per year in Brazil, IN.", which comes to around 10-12K euros a year. My experience when I was a developer is really around that value. Getting 1.6K euros a month is a VERY good initial salary in Brazil, specially if you live in low cost of living areas like Northeastern backlands.
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by mikestew on Thursday September 01, 2022 @05:32PM (#32683555)
"The estimated salary for a computer programmer is $62,420 per year in Brazil, IN."

As sibling has stated, Brazil (properly pronounced "BRAY-zil") is a small town in the U. S. state of Indiana. What amazes me though, as one that grew up probably 20 miles from the town, is that anyone in Brazil, IN is paying $62K/year. But it's been 30 years since I lived anywhere near there, looks like it's grown a little.

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by marcodiego on Friday September 02, 2022 @11:48AM (#32692196)
Ooops... Thanks for the heads up. Fortunately, numbers are coincident.
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by brotherjerky on Thursday September 01, 2022 @04:40PM (#32682839)
> The estimated salary for a computer programmer is $62,420 per year in Brazil, IN

Uh, this is almost certainly data for the US city of Brazil, Indiana https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil,_Indiana -- not the country of Brazil

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by joshlemer on Thursday September 01, 2022 @12:40PM (#32679015)
1.6k euros per... month?
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by rcarmo on Thursday September 01, 2022 @12:45PM (#32679129)
Yeah, that would be the kind of money you’d get as a junior “anything”, even outside tech.
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by joao_lopes on Thursday September 01, 2022 @05:51PM (#32683791)
Also, in Portugal you receive 14 months per year instead of 12 (one extra on summer holiday and another on Christmas).
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by pb7 on Friday September 02, 2022 @06:36AM (#32689037)
This is all the more reason to state it as a yearly salary. There are only 12 months in a year. You might get 2 extra paychecks but those are bonuses/irregular payments; there aren’t magically 2 extra months in the year.
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by llanowarelves on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:24PM (#32685532)
Always bugs me that Europeans use the word "salary" to mean monthly payments when in the US it defaults to meaning yearly.
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by nottorp on Friday September 02, 2022 @03:59AM (#32687936)
So it bugs us that you mean yearly and still measure things in elbows to the hoghead. Live with it.
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by outworlder on Thursday September 01, 2022 @01:06PM (#32679521)
Yeah. It's a decent salary for a junior, when converted to BRL. Heck, even for senior positions outside tech.