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Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by colinmhayes on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @03:09PM (#32666922)
The radiology stuff is happening. My father is an administrator at a hospital. They went from having 3 radiologists on staff to 2 because they use ai to screen which increases productivity. These things don't have to be all or nothing, the hospital is saving hundreds of thousands a year now because radiologists are so expensive.
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Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by trention on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @04:29PM (#32667928)
The "radiology stuff" is not happening. Data from BLS (https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm)

Employed Radiologic Technologists in the US:

2014 - 193,400

2021 - 216,380

The growth is larger than the overall population growth in the same period. And that is in a very outsourceable occupation.

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Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by Wojtkie on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @05:36PM (#32668676)
To be fair, Radiologic Technologists are different than a Radiologist. The former is a certification requiring a 2 year degree, the latter requires a Doctorate of Medicine which takes an additional 4 years at least on top of 4 years of undergrad. Then you need 4 years of residency and an additional sub-speciality year on top of that to be a Radiologist.

So, very different.

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Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by trention on Thursday September 01, 2022 @02:24AM (#32672695)
The latter is a subset of the former in BLS statistics and I am using the larger category only because BLS apparently only started counting Radiologists as a separate subcategory in 2019.
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Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by robertlagrant on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @06:25PM (#32669139)
Yes. Techs and doctors are different!
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Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by cma on Thursday September 01, 2022 @02:06PM (#32680534)
Two points (your conclusion that AI hasn't had much effect yet may still be right):

Population growth isn't everything. The uninsured rate dropped from 12% to around 8% in that time period. Not many uninsured people get radiologist services unless it is an emergency.

And cheaper AI-assisted Radiologists could increase the overall employment of Radiologic Technologists.

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Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by lucidrains on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @03:27PM (#32667126)
out of curiosity, which hospital is this?
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