Re:4.2 Gigabytes, Or: How to Draw Anything
by spywaregorilla on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:28PM
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That's great, but we're nowhere near that point. That is basically a post scarcity society.
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Re:4.2 Gigabytes, Or: How to Draw Anything
by diputsmonro on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @06:47PM
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If our enormous economic engines were devoted towards efficiency rather than profit motive, I think we would be there.
How many appliances do we build to last for a few years and then break? How many economic resources could we save by building fewer products to last longer? If the economic engine were tilted towards quality rather than churn, we could be much more efficient about our use of resources.
Re:4.2 Gigabytes, Or: How to Draw Anything
by incrudible on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @07:48PM
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The profit motive promotes efficiency by driving all prices towards marginal cost, as long as competition exists. Highly durable goods are not per se an efficient use of resources, but we probably disagree on the meaning of that word anyway.
Re:4.2 Gigabytes, Or: How to Draw Anything
by spywaregorilla on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @06:55PM
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No, we're nowhere near it. Last mile labor needs are unavoidable at this time and energy and materials are still very much scarce.
Durable products would be nice.
Re:4.2 Gigabytes, Or: How to Draw Anything
by idiotsecant on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @07:55PM
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If you wait until a post-scarcity to implement a UBI you will have violent collapse of society long before you reach post-scarcity. We walk a razor's edge of oppression - too little and society doesn't have enough peasants to grind into the machine to make the gears work, too much and the peasants destroy the machine.
Re:4.2 Gigabytes, Or: How to Draw Anything
by spywaregorilla on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @09:20AM
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And if you implement UBI now, you'll just shoot yourself in the foot and become less economically competitive because you're in a globalized economy. You cannot do this while you're still dependent on trade with other countries, which we are. You can do UBI when it really wouldn't matter if we didn't employ people in low wage jobs.
Re:4.2 Gigabytes, Or: How to Draw Anything
by dmitriid on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @01:26AM
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For all intents and prepared we already live in a post-scarcity society. We're just too shitty to make an effort to distribute the wealth, the food, the products etc.
Re:4.2 Gigabytes, Or: How to Draw Anything
by spywaregorilla on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @09:21AM
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Not even close. Producing enough total food to feed everyone is not post scarcity. A massive energy crisis in europe is plenty evidence for this.