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Re:DevOps: An idea so good, no one admits they don’t do it by rufflez on Monday August 29, 2022 @01:15PM (#32640774)
Agile is bogus nonsense - there I said it.
Re:DevOps: An idea so good, no one admits they don’t do it by kenrose on Monday August 29, 2022 @01:21PM (#32640849)
Yeah, iterate quickly, learn from your customers usage, repeat.

You're right, total rubbish. /s

Re:DevOps: An idea so good, no one admits they don’t do it by stonogo on Monday August 29, 2022 @01:32PM (#32640995)
Your pithy dismissal leaves out hundreds of pages of religious rites and project management dances which invariably turn into productivity-sucking meeting overload, unachievable goals, and constant product churn, effectively alienating everyone from the developer to the user, leaving only the managers satisfied. Like telling a college student that communism doesn't work, any objection is met with "well they're just not doing REAL Agile," skipping over the fact that nobody on Earth seems to be "doing REAL Agile."

Agile could just as well serve in the headline in place of DevOps.

Re:DevOps: An idea so good, no one admits they don’t do it by rufflez on Monday August 29, 2022 @02:34PM (#32641768)
This is not how it works in real life. Contracts are made to the lowest bidder, there are promises to keep or heads will roll. By iteration 10, your customer is fuming that the half baked idea has more exceptions than handled scenarios and the finger pointing begins. Also, forget about architecture, performance, security and other pesky little problems. I have never seen it play out differently.

The biggest problem is that the person footing the bill does not care about your story points or retrospective- and I don't blame them for that

Re:DevOps: An idea so good, no one admits they don’t do it by latchkey on Monday August 29, 2022 @01:18PM (#32640812)
Cool... what's your alternative?
Re:DevOps: An idea so good, no one admits they don’t do it by rufflez on Monday August 29, 2022 @02:51PM (#32641983)
Software used to be built before Agile...

Let's at least keep solution design and also get senior engineers to help estimate

And do away with daily stand up and bs rituals.. a meeting is needed when it is needed, not for the sake of "following the process"