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Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by freeflight on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:18PM (#32622146)
In hardware circles I've seen CPUs/GPUs colloquially being referred to as "silicon" for at least a decade.

Which has very little to do with Apple PR, but everything with how CPUs/GPUs are overwhelmingly made from silicon.

Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by heavyset_go on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:26PM (#32622228)
This trends chart[1] suggests that "Apple silicon" is very much a marketing term versus a colloquial term for chips in general.

[1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&ge...

Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by programmer_dude on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:28PM (#32622261)
This line of reasoning is just dumb. Every single chip on the mother board is made from Silicon. (There maybe some gallium or germanium parts but those are insignificant and irrelevant).
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by ohgodplsno on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:32PM (#32622307)
Hint: people posting on HN about how the M1/M2 are revolutionary are definitely not part of any hardware circles, and are using the marketing speak.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by n7pdx on Saturday August 27, 2022 @06:25PM (#32623868)
LOL. Anyone who works in chip design would know much M1/M2 changed the hardware game. It is actually the dabbler enthusiast talking about how power/perf isn’t important because his LED-laden shitbox has a wall plug (muh absolute performance) that doesn’t grasp how utterly irrelevant DIY builders are in the market. Just look at the relative sales of servers, laptops and desktop and see what we care about.

Not a single second of thought is ever spent by the architects/designers on optimizing “absolute performance”. We only care about perf/area and perf/watt. It is the marketing teams that try to hype up gamer performance. Overclocking/high voltage performance requires the engineering knowledge of a freshman intern: go raise the voltage/freq, run the test program, make a SKU.

Source: worked on CPU/GPU arch/design for 20 years, including at Intel.

Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by ohgodplsno on Sunday August 28, 2022 @02:24AM (#32626241)
Cool story, but that's not the subject.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by n7pdx on Sunday August 28, 2022 @10:50AM (#32628823)
Intel fanboys whine about Apple/Intel CPU comparisons, here is their answer.

The takeaway from the story: connecting a bunch of shitty chiplets together makes a shitty SoC. Except this time, Intel paid TSMC a buttload of money to make their shitty design.

Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by freeflight on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:41PM (#32622405)
The original thread comment asked if this was a thing before "Apple Silicon", that's what I was referring to; I've seen it before, and not just years before but over a decade before, possibly even two decades.

As such it's not something Apple PR invented, but rather hijacked.

Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by exmadscientist on Saturday August 27, 2022 @04:42PM (#32622993)
It used to be slang, though. Something you'd use to punch up the first paragraph of an article, not the way people actually talked. For some reason calling it "Apple Silicon" really grates on me, too. But such are the whims of megacorps.