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Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by raverbashing on Saturday August 27, 2022 @12:41PM (#32620760)
And yet, right now, solar is 20% of the electricity on the grid in Germany. Wind is 15% (per the electrictymaps app)

Sure it would be better if it was a sunnier place, still...

Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by atemerev on Saturday August 27, 2022 @01:29PM (#32621181)
It would be even more better if they didn't close their nuclear power plants. I am still shocked how sad and untimely this decision had been.
Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by wongarsu on Saturday August 27, 2022 @02:50PM (#32621902)
It wouldn't change much in this map, German nuclear plants always had cooling issues in hot summer. No open-loop cooling to prevent water from getting too hot for the fish, and plants capable of closed loop cooling eventually get issues with the river's water level. France has the same issues right now with their nuclear plants.

Winter is of course a different issue

Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by spaceman_2020 on Saturday August 27, 2022 @01:19PM (#32621100)
You should see how much they’ve invested in solar to hit that mark, and how much capacity is being unutilized
Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by raverbashing on Saturday August 27, 2022 @01:39PM (#32621278)
Top utilization of solar was approximately 25% of the installed base today

At the same time, 49% of nuclear in France is being used today and 62% of nuclear in the UK

So, it's "bad" but not everything is used 100% all the time

Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by spaceman_2020 on Saturday August 27, 2022 @05:48PM (#32623561)
The thing is, on a perfect day, Germany has enough solar capacity to fulfill almost all of its electricity needs.

But that perfect day is rare, largely because of Germany’s climate.

So you have a situation where you have to essentially install over 100% of your needs in solar. You’re overspending for suboptimum results.

Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by adgjlsfhk1 on Sunday August 28, 2022 @01:10AM (#32625952)
yes you overbuild, but solar is still one of the cheapest girls is electricity even when you consider the necessary overbuilding.
Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by teamonkey on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:45PM (#32622458)
Maybe you could show us with a source?
Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by spaceman_2020 on Saturday August 27, 2022 @05:52PM (#32623591)
This is a good one:

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-failure-...

Essentially, there’s plenty of installed solar capacity but most of it can’t be utilized fully unless its a perfect day. So you have to essentially rely on backup and keep installing more and more solar capacity beyond your needs because those perfect solar days are so rare in Germany.

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who has ever spent even two days in Germany - the country isn’t exactly brimming with sunlight.

Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by ZeroGravitas on Sunday August 28, 2022 @03:26AM (#32626479)
Your article says Germany started off well but politicians were too scared to continue and other nations caught up.

In particular they dragged their heels on ICE to EV transition, which I agree with.

Luckily they shifted from a conservative towards a green government and all that stuff is moving forward again.

> Politicians have ignored other elements, like industrial production, building efficiency and, especially, vehicle traffic. Involving those areas and coming up with an overarching concept, that's the hard part that must now be addressed. And it will determine whether Germany will once again become a model of sustainable economic production or whether the entire experiment will end in failure.

Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by megablast on Saturday August 27, 2022 @04:53PM (#32623079)
Or you could tell us.
Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by imhoguy on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:26PM (#32622242)
And how much all that solar equipment garbage is going to be disposed soon.