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Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by Entinel on Thursday August 25, 2022 @07:07PM (#32601178)
> Seriously, any devs that use Electron rather than programming for an operating system's natively provided APIs are lazy and/or incompetent and very disrespectful of peoples' computers and time.

This is such an aggressively bad take. This is disrespectful of a lot of developers' time. Plenty of open source software I greatly enjoy wouldn't exist on Linux if it wasn't for Electron. Electron is not a choice I would make for myself but to say "if you use it you are incompetent" is just a bad take.

Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by Dalewyn on Thursday August 25, 2022 @08:46PM (#32601969)
>This is disrespectful of a lot of developers' time.

I might consider respecting them when they start respecting my time and hardware.

Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by Entinel on Thursday August 25, 2022 @08:50PM (#32601993)
If you don't like the decisions I make with my software then don't use it. It's really that simple.
Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by Dalewyn on Thursday August 25, 2022 @09:53PM (#32602450)
And by and large I don't, actually.

The only Electron programs I tolerate are of the Too Big To Evade kind: Steam, Discord, LINE, and DMM Game Player.

The rest can (and have) all take a hike for wasting my electric bills.

Also, don't expect (let alone demand) to earn any respect from users if you don't respect them in the first place. It's really that simple.

Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by ssizn on Friday August 26, 2022 @03:42AM (#32604323)
Steam is not Electron.
Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by Dalewyn on Friday August 26, 2022 @07:07AM (#32605811)
The client embeds Electron, or at least some flavor of Chrome, within it.
Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by burnte on Thursday August 25, 2022 @07:10PM (#32601209)
It's a rapid prototyping platform, releasing it as production is just bad. Releasing it as production is disrespectful to the users, so given the choice of disrespecting the users or the devs, I'd say the devs deserve it more for making user-hostile choices.
Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by trs8080 on Thursday August 25, 2022 @07:33PM (#32601401)
> It's a rapid prototyping platform

Citation needed.

If my competitors want to waste time and resources hiring people to create 3-4 versions of the same app for different devices/OSes, I gladly welcome it. I'll be a well established incumbent by the time they put out their MVP.

If I can solve an important business need, my customers don't care if I use 120mb of RAM to do it. They certainly don't see it as "disrespectful" if I can save/make them money in the long run.

Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by roustem on Thursday August 25, 2022 @08:12PM (#32601722)
At 1Password we actually did not mind developing separately for every platform. It's been done for years. We build it for ourselves and don't mind putting extra work for better experience.

However, the problem is that you end up with apps that behave differently, miss features, and have different bugs across platforms. Drives people crazy. Just one example: 1Password 7 for Windows shows different search results in a different order compared to the Mac app. Obviously it could be fixed but then a different issue pops up somewhere else.

Instead of adding new features we spent time fixing (making?) various bugs in different ways.

The new 1Password 8 still has a ton of platform-specific code but the core is the same across all desktop and mobile apps. It allows us to get the new features out faster and also spend time on platform-specific code.

Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by jensvdh on Thursday August 25, 2022 @07:38PM (#32601447)
What a bad take. Multiple multi-billion dollar companies are built on the back of Electron.

Is it the most performant? No. Does your average user care? No.

Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by throwaway675309 on Thursday August 25, 2022 @08:57PM (#32602047)
Electron apps can be written well, VS code is a great example. The majority of my customers use the electron versions of my apps, and 99% of them don't even know what electron is.

So in the meantime, I don't really give a crap what the average angsty passive aggressive self-entitled developer thinks about the underpinning framework that my products are written with since frankly, you're not really the target demographic. (For most software).

Re:1Password delisting forum posts critical of their new Ele... by szundi on Thursday August 25, 2022 @07:30PM (#32601382)
Considering the vast success of a lot of Electron based software like vscode and all others this comment seems odd.