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Re:Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar by nuccy on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @04:44PM (#32585494)
This aircraft was flying using the Coandă effect [1] (also see video [2] at 1:38), it was aerodynamically unstable and required active control. It was definitely ahead of its time. It would be great if some of those "crazy 40s-60s concept vehicles" could be revived with the modern technology.

Video in the linked wikipedia page is too short, this one is better [2].

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeHY_c13gVA

Re:Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar by trhway on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @05:44PM (#32586180)
> It would be great if some of those "crazy 40s-60s concept vehicles" could be revived with the modern technology.

Yep, i wish some collector type (similar to car collecting Leno) spent some money building modern versions of at least some of the most successful/feasible models from the "wheel of VTOL misfortune" https://vtol.org/vstol/wheel.htm . Back then it seems to have been some kind of "Jurassic explosion" of VTOL innovation, and hopefully these days we're having some small renaissance of it.

Re:Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar by nradov on Thursday August 25, 2022 @12:29AM (#32589484)
Someone might build scale model drones of a few of those. But manned aircraft would be suicide weapons outside of a carefully controlled flight test program. There are just so many failure modes.
Re:Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar by klyrs on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @06:17PM (#32586529)
Service ceiling:

   10,000 ft (3,000 m) (estimated)
   3 ft (0.91 m) (actual)
Re:Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar by happyopossum on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @05:30PM (#32586041)
As a non-engineer, it seems like we could solve a lot of the issues with these things today.

1) Active control is standard fare on a ton of places these days - it's 'normal' for a military jet to be aerodynamically unstable.

2) 2000lb of combined thrust without melting the gauges? Check - better insulation, jet efficiency, and electric power all can help here.

3) Funding? C'mon Elon - you know you want one!

Re:Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar by ortusdux on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @06:18PM (#32586552)
Tom Stanton on youtube was able to get a Coanda effect quadcopter off the ground a few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irp_vnmUWZ4

Re:Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar by ibawt on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @05:59PM (#32586332)
I'm disappointed there isn't one at the Aviation Musuem in Ottawa. Though I'd like to see a full Arrow as well :(
Re:Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar by t6jvcereio on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @04:44PM (#32585483)
This looks like it could be Elon Musk's next invention.
Re:Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar by lttlrck on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @07:35PM (#32587331)
If nothing else we can be sure he'd market it as his invention.