Re:Can the Visa-Mastercard duopoly be broken?
by blackoil on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @11:13PM
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In India, now you have to approve all such scheduled payments with a 2FA and upto a limit. So even if I have approved ShadyCorp they can't demand more than approved amount.
Re:Can the Visa-Mastercard duopoly be broken?
by mcv on Thursday August 18, 2022 @04:46AM
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Dutch banks used to work like that too, by "incasso", and in fact still do to some extent. But any incasso that hasn't been directly authorised by you with the bank can be undone (and apparently at an additional fee to the company that originated it; they really don't like it when that happens). So that's actually very similar to how credit cards work, but without the additional fee. These days you can easily manage all upcoming incassos through your banking app and block them before they happen, though I generally prefer to pay such recurring payments through automated "push" transfer.
Re:Can the Visa-Mastercard duopoly be broken?
by lxgr on Thursday August 18, 2022 @08:13AM
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The problem is that since direct debits are so easily reversible, in Germany they are not seen as a final form of payment (until the charge return time limit expires) as there is no form of dispute arbitration involved.
Merchants will usually not ship goods or provide services for a direct debit alone.
With a credit card, on the other hand, you see what was taken _before_ you pay them. So you can tell the credit card company "this amount that was charged to me is not me, I'm not paying that". Then the credit card company has to look into it; they have incentive to figure out what happened (unlike banks) because they aren't getting payed back their "loan" to you until they do.