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Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by jonnybgood on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @08:02PM (#32490685)
Ford is not a tech company.

> Most people in Europe don’t want to leave.

I believe they're saying if European tech companies want to compete in business with US tech companies they need to pay their engineers more money.

Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by jbay808 on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @08:19PM (#32490800)
> Ford is not a tech company.

By what standard?

Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by jonathankoren on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @09:49PM (#32491347)
Software is not their primary business.
Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by chrisseaton on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @10:33PM (#32491634)
If you mean ‘software company’ then say that - software isn’t the only form of technology - drive trains are also technology.
Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by jbay808 on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @11:11PM (#32491870)
Is SpaceX a tech company?
Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by speed_spread on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @08:22PM (#32490819)
> Ford is not a tech company.

By their CEO's own admission, Ford sees itself as a "data company":

https://www.autoblog.com/2016/01/06/ceo-mark-fields-ford-dat...

Their software chops are certainly dubious, but there is no questioning their intent when it comes to entering the surveillance economy.

Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by IncRnd on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @09:46PM (#32491327)
> By their CEO's own admission, Ford sees itself as a "data company":

The linked article quotes the CEO, "Overall, when you look at our business, we're not only a car manufacturing company. We are a technology company. As our vehicles become part of the Internet of things and as consumers give permission to us to collect that data, we'll also become an information company."

That's marketing related to the IoT buzzword. Next week they might talk about using blockchain. The other part of the statement is that they are a "data company," because they can sell information about their customers.

The words from the CEO are the same words from a data analyst, but they each mean something entirely different.

Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by rkagerer on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @09:22PM (#32491166)
Ford sees itself as a "data company"

What a disaster. I wish they would focus on simply making good cars.

Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by colinmhayes on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @12:29AM (#32492366)
Margins for car companies are shit. Why would anyone invest in a race to the bottom high marginal cost company when differentiated zero marginal cost companies exist? And what if we just told everyone we were the latter?
Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by hef19898 on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @02:19AM (#32492926)
Worked for Tesla so far.
Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by speed_spread on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @12:07AM (#32492216)
Ironically, Ford stopped selling the Focus and all other passenger cars (except the Mach-E) in the USA after 2018.
Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by jonathankoren on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @09:52PM (#32491362)
> By their CEO's own admission, Ford sees itself as a "data company"

What does this even mean? They don’t sell access to data. Oh! They use data to make business decisions? Well, welcome to 2004.

Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by speed_spread on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @12:17AM (#32492288)
It means they figured that monetizing the data they collect on people driving their cars will bring them more cash than selling the cars themselves. The same way electronics manufacturer have doubled their profits on "smart" TV sets over a few years by feeding advertisers knowledge about what you're watching, and when, so you can be targeted more precisely in future ad campaigns.

Have you heard of those small companies called Google and Facebook? Care to compare their market cap with Ford's lately? Do you really think they're worth that much because of their quick web search and easy friend-finding?

Re:Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer by rdtwo on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @10:59PM (#32491796)
lol silly why would you think they use data to make business choices. They make the choices then make data to justify said choices. That’s how legacy companies do it