.Net has run better on Linux (edit: better than on Windows) machines since at least before the pandemic.

I'm a Java dev, but I have also developed on .Net and running modern .Net on Linux is about as simple as it get.

Does visual studio run on linux yet? That's my rubicon for taking .net seriously. It's not just about the runtime, the tooling has to be present as well.

Your rubicon is about 5 years out of date. VS Code and Rider are excellent tooling for .Net on or off Windows OS.

This is not quite true on an M1 Mac. The VS Code C# extension only supports .NET Core, and the latest and deprecated release 3.1 has no ARM build. .NET 6 does, but is somehow unsupported.

To me, it's clear Microsoft wants to force people to use VisualStudio over VSCode. Likely not an issue for a .NET shop, but it's yet more shenanigans by Microsoft

Er, what? The VS Code extension gets updated all the time, it was updated in tandem with .NET through to .NET 6 and is currently being developed for .NET 7.

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-dotne...

Works with Linux x64, Alpine Linux 64 bit, macOS Intel, Linux ARM64, macOS Apple Silicon, Alpine Linux ARM64, Windows ARM, Windows ia32, Windows x64

.NET 6 is the first where they fully supported M1 Macs, maybe you last looked before .NET 6 released? Either way, VS Code is definitely a supported way to work with .NET.

JetBrains Rider on Ubuntu/Mac is probably a better development experience than Visual Studio on Windows.

I use JetBrains Rider on Windows instead of Visual Studio and love it.

Same here. Resharper + Visual Studio is about equivalent to Rider, but the performance of Resharper + Visual Studio is *horrible* compared to Rider.

As long as it's not a desktop application that requires WPF.

WPF won’t run on linux, so that’s not in question either way.

try Rider from JetBrains, it's as good or better as Visual Studio. I'm developing .NET projects (web) on macbooks with Rider for last 2 years, and do not miss Visual Studio at all

VS does not run there. But you have Jetbrains’ Rider there.

Extremely unlikely vs will ever run on linux, pretty sure it's built using wpf which is window only. The tooling on linux is just fine, and VSCode and Jetbrains rider are your main options.

Code does... Visual Studio itself not so much.

Why is that a requirement to take it seriously? I've been deploying apps developed in OSX/Windows to linux boxes for 20 years...

I don't know.

I don't like Visual Studio and haven't touched it since I realized VS Code worked fine.

(I'm more of an Eclipse/NetBeans/VS Code kind of person.)

No, but they make a high quality plug in for VS Code which gives you a similar overall experience, as well you can use JetBrains C# IDE which is very good and often preferred even on Windows.

That would be Visual Studio Code then. Runs just fine on Linux, yes.

Use Rider.

You're welcome.

Currently, our customers are the ones running the software on their machines.

We haven’t run into a customer that wants us to host for them yet (and probably won’t ever in our market of banking).

Azure App Service linux is much cheaper than windows.

I would not say the cost is a fraction. The cost of the machines are certainly a fraction reduced.

For most businesses with less than a hundred instances, the cost is negligible and probably is cheaper than the companies Slack bill.

Windows server licenses[1]!? Even looking at EC2 it's nearly 3x more expensive to run Windows than Linux, at a glance[2].

[1]: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/pricing?rtc=1 [2]: https://parquantix.com/linux-windows-aws-cost-comparison/

Yes, still irrelevant. The only people that seem to complain about the cost are people not actually responsible signing off on invoices. Compared to the many other costs a company is spending money on, it's unlikely the MS expenses will even show up in a budget review unless you're really screwed the pooch.